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studeq

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Re: First post ,need assistance on '49 Virginian
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2012, 01:32:11 AM »
We have records from an old title showing that the owner previous to the estate from which we purchased it was Emil Heinz of Plant City, Florida. This goes back to 1993. The serial number is 4M4321. Anyone know any history on this car?

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Re: First post ,need assistance on '49 Virginian
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2012, 06:57:50 AM »
I never knew that, about the increases in knowledge of KF production. While is is still less than the Studebaker archival information with actual production orders for most US built cars after the late 30s, and most of 1960 onwards Canadian production, it is certainly more than I believed existed. When last I visited the info, as that time only part of the 1953 production was known in detail (the only info at the time rescued from the Willys fire/flood)
KF
49 Kaiser Special Glass Green, Saskatchewan new
Studebaker
64 2dr 170-6 auto Astra White Commander Special
63 4dr Wagonaire 259V8 o/d Blue
57 4dr 185-6 auto Glendale Green/Turquoise
57 4dr 185-6 o/d Glendale Green/Turquoise W6 clone
lawn art
57 Stude 259V8 auto. 56 Panhard

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Re: First post ,need assistance on '49 Virginian
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2012, 07:54:44 PM »
Yes, I knew Emil. He would have been the one to have installed the interior. He also owned a Frazer Vagabond and it had a fresh rebuild for the national meet in New Orleans. I recall his mentioning the hardtop and having work done on it. If Email owned it, then it's a good, solid car.

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Re: First post ,need assistance on '49 Virginian
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 12:25:28 AM »
4M4321 wouldn't be the actual serial number of the car. A Kaiser Virginian 4 door hardtop would be a 1949 model (4923) or a 1950 (5023)

From the Registry, here are two actual listings:
           Serial No.    Body No.   PAINT TRIM  DR TR AG  SCH ITEM  OWNER     STATE
#23  K502-033310   1406         048 2306   1    4    3    103 186    Davis        CA         1950
and
#27  K492--033621  1487         055 2314   1    4    3    130 292    Telatco      OH        LWR  GMR

When they reserialized the 1949 cars as 1950 models, there were some cars that were out of sequence for serial number AND body number as this shows. (This also happened again with the 'other' Virginians and Vagabonds, which weren't hardtops or utility (hatchbacks) at all, but 1951 Kaisers and Henry J's that were reserialized as 1952 models, and sent out with a Continental kit (I think--there might be other differences) and are different from the 'real' 1952 models)

SN: Serial Number (on drivers door post)
BN: Body Number (on Firewall)
PNT: Paint Code
TRIM: Trim Code
DR: Delivery region (1 for US, 2 for export)
TR: Transmission code
AG: Accessory Group
SCH: SCHED(ule) Number
ITEM: Item Number
ADDL INFO:
HB, LWR, GGR, etc.: Numbers sent in by various members
KF
49 Kaiser Special Glass Green, Saskatchewan new
Studebaker
64 2dr 170-6 auto Astra White Commander Special
63 4dr Wagonaire 259V8 o/d Blue
57 4dr 185-6 auto Glendale Green/Turquoise
57 4dr 185-6 o/d Glendale Green/Turquoise W6 clone
lawn art
57 Stude 259V8 auto. 56 Panhard