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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2012, 06:56:13 PM »
My 52 ALLSTATE. I never ran with ALLSTATE hub caps. They stayed in the trunk! I used HJs for every day.
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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2012, 07:09:05 PM »
If you do not have any parts list for Henry J/ALLSTATE, this is a start .Use with caution numbers change.
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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2012, 07:56:06 PM »
1953 ALLSTATE 4 w o/d and full wheel covers. Unlike Henry J ALLSTATE had a 4 cyl deluxe and it came with full discs!

The '52 Allstate sales folder shows the car with bumper guards but the '53 edition does not but the '53 salesmans data book lists and illustrates many accessories for the Allstate including radio and heater, oil filter, wheel discs, directional signals and non illustrated accessories such as rear seat radio speakers. windshield washers, glare proof rear view mirror, outside rear view mirrors, illuminated vanity mirrors, cigarette lighter, sealed beam spotlights, outside windshield visor, chrome exhaust deflectors, Allstate undercoating, and Allstate cleaning supplies.  Perhaps some of these accessories were supplied by K-F but maybe not.  Sears had a large line of auto accessories in the 1950's  They do not list bumper guards as an accessory for 1953 and all of the illustrations show the full wheel covers. None of my literature mentions a deluxe four cylinder car but they do describe the four cylinder and the six.  Every accessory that they had was available for either the four or the six.  My '53 Willys has a NOS set of Allstate wide whitewall tires installed on it so I will put them on the Allstate where they really belong.  Otherwise I will just clean it up and leave it original.
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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2012, 09:01:26 PM »
Regarding what the Allstate hubcaps etc. looked like - anything on the J that had a "K" on it was blanked out on the Allstate. Here's the full wheel cover -

The small hubcap -

The "filler" K emblems which the later Js had were blank on the Allstate -

The horn button was blank and the "K" on the speedo bezel has a decorative cover on it (hard to see in the photo) -

Notice too, the Allstate signal lights. I've seen those in a number of Js as well, including my '52 Vagabond and my dad's '51 Deluxe.
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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2012, 01:12:51 PM »
Lowell... Whose Maroon ALLSTATE is that?
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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2012, 01:56:39 PM »
If I remember correctly, it's Bob Antram's car.
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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2012, 12:10:14 PM »
Thanks for the great information and photos.  They are a big help in trying to figure what is correct for an Allstate.  I don't think that we have ever had this much info available for these scarce cars.
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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2012, 02:30:02 PM »
The matters of upholstery, paint color and trim detail (with pictures of correct examples) falls with in the Judging arena.  Ask the Chief Judge at this year's National Convention why the material is not made available to the general membership for more information on this.

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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2012, 02:44:49 PM »
Remember that the Allstate (SER No 37) is an 'Early' 1952 Allstate.  It has as it's platform the 'late' 1951 Henry J. This is most noticeable in the rear fenders do not have the tail lights up in the tip of the fins. This requires Tail lights in the  holes near the bottom and not the Allstate deletes. It also has the Autolite Electrial system. It still has the Allstate Regulator, but it is an Autolite type not Delco-Remy. I can provide the Allstate Voltage Regulate P/Ns for both the Delco-Remy and Autolite. 
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Re: 1952 Allstate with body number 230 1000037 found
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2012, 07:35:30 PM »
1953 ALLSTATE 4 w o/d and full wheel covers. Unlike Henry J ALLSTATE had a 4 cyl deluxe and it came with full discs!
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Walter Miller the car literature dealer currently has a 1952 Allstate folder on eBay # 370425006869.  It has a large rubber stamp image on the cover page that quotes the Allstate prices.  "Basic 4 cyl. $1567, standard 4 cyl $1658,  deluxe 4 cyl, $1711, deluxe 6 cyl,  $1865, overdrive $104."  That is the only mention that I have seen regarding deluxe 4 cyl. cars and I made a copy of it.  If I didn't already have the Allstate folders I would buy it but if you want to make a copy of the cover it is great documentation that the car was available in the three versions.  Now I wonder what the differences are in the "basic and standard" Allstates?
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