Mike , I talked to Doug. on Friday12/4/2013 1:00 pm. He informed me he is running a grey color seat insert HYBRED on the looms now, for a Kaiser member and how ever it turns out will be the best that can be accomplished by his machinery and people, he didn't volunteer who that was. Our only recourse from that is to follow up on the information I have and have it done in Australia, with the wool/rayon overwrap as was the original material. The problem I had at the time of their quote was 500+ yards of each color.