Author Topic: Kaiser Frazer pickups  (Read 78070 times)

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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2014, 02:20:56 PM »
I got the link to work what a neat location I spent an hour browsing the
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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2014, 06:47:23 PM »
New link worked great. Nice ride, that Frazer pick-up. Not the Muntz one that I know, maybe it was once a Muntz truck. Would need to see documentation to believe it.
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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2014, 07:05:03 PM »
This custom seems to have a Frazer style grill and does not seem to have the separate truck bed that the Muntz made trucks allegedly had.  It does make a nice looking custom.
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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2014, 08:44:39 AM »
Here are some pictures of the truck built by a body shop in Long Beach for some Southern California K-F dealers.  A memo was sent from the Southern California Division of K-F back to Willow Run suggesting the company offer this model but at the time there were still over 500,000 orders in hand from dealers for new Kaiser or Frazer cars so the project was never pursued
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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2015, 07:48:34 AM »
Of the three  3 pickups made, one was  a 3 speed, one was a four speed, and one with an automatic. The one that is being talked about is the automatic. I have also have talked to the owner and he claims they made them all different to test the market. There is a 3 speed in New Mexico that is in original condition and I am working on getting pictures of it. I have also contacted it's owner and hope to get some more details. I have also found out that one of the trucks was a Frazer.

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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2015, 08:13:18 AM »
The late Howard Edmunds from Hastings, Michigan, had a 53 Kaiser that was professionally converted into an El-Camino style pickup. The work, according to him, was completed in the early 60s by a firm in Detroit whose name now escapes me.

He also had a 49 Frazer Traveler that I ended up with. It had a Frazer serial number tag and Kaiser trim and body tags. Both he and I suspected someone many years ago switched bodies on a frame that was probably wrecked. A fellow KFer still has the front sheet metal and much of the driveline is now in my 50 Traveler.

Howard was a well known Kaiser collector. At the time of his passing he has about 100 cars. All ran and drove to where they sat but deteriorated over the years to being parts cars. A 50 Frazer convertible was rescued and restored by another club member.

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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2015, 09:04:23 AM »
I would like to see a picture of Howards truck.
The man that owns the Kaiser truck also states the truck beds were grafted on like a unibody pickup (like his truck) and not separate like todays trucks even though they may have used a truck bed.

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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2015, 11:13:08 PM »
We know that automatics and four speeds were not available in 1947 so they must have been customized much later and are not the Muntz customs.  I lived in Long Beach CA in 1947 and had visited the Dealer on American Ave. to collect the literature on the new cars.  I used to walk all over town visiting the new car dealers and went to the showing of the new Davis cars and the Tucker which was being shown in a body shop that was also the new Tucker dealer. 
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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2015, 08:30:12 AM »
Hmmmm, According to the owner of the Green Kaiser Pickup and the article about the truck, the 3 promotional trucks were made in 1950 by Betts in southern Ca and were all made different to show the public what they could offer. I'm not sure when they offered an automatic but it is not out of the question to use one if they were around then because they did use a pickup bed from other automotive makes.
The Davis Dealership truck was made out of a wrecked car in 1948.


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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2015, 08:35:19 AM »
The Hydro-matic was used by Pontiac in 1950 and the motor in in the Green Kaiser truck had a Pontiac straight eight.

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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2015, 01:39:58 PM »
I guess that's all the history and or information we are going to get, but if you just stumbled onto this thread and have some information or history on these incredible trucks please do so.
Again thanks for everyone's help!

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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2015, 08:24:11 AM »
Has anyone found the article about the Kaiser Pickup in the quarterly or in the "car and parts" magazine?
I have been trying to find them with no luck!
Any Guesses of dates that it might be?

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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2015, 07:08:03 AM »
Thanks Jake!
Is the quarterly available on line?
I am not a member of the KFclub

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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2015, 02:42:55 PM »
The Quarterly Magazine is but just one benefit of club membership.  Why don't you join the club and enjoy all of the extras?   ???
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Re: Kaiser Frazer pickups
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2015, 10:45:39 AM »
Hello again,
Thanks Jake, for the info.

**** I have talked with Gary, the owner of the Kaiser concept truck #3 by Madman Muntz and he was so kind enough to give me the Serial number and body numbers off his truck.

**** I checked the numbers to the 1947 Frazer pickup from Oregon and THEY ARE WITHIN A FEW DAYS APART!!!!!!!!!!!

****I also found where the first one was a three speed Frazer Manhattan (which this is!)

****I have looked at the original title from southern California and it says it's a PICKUP not a SEDAN like it started life!!

****The truck also had a 1947 with a 1950 tab (updated sticker) California Dealer license plate #1

****There are many, many other things that identify this truck as the FIRST truck commissioned by Earl Muntz!

****And being a Frazer and not a Kaiser it is a 1 of 1 not a 1 of 3!!!!! Oh My!!

****I have contacted the owner and have bought this truck!!!!!!!!

Thanks to everyone who has helped Identify this truck!