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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 1953manga on July 17, 2018, 10:24:47 AM

Title: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: 1953manga on July 17, 2018, 10:24:47 AM
Where can I obtain the mixing formula for 1951  Caribbean Coral paint? Thanks
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: G.B. (All Vinyl Dragon) on July 17, 2018, 11:51:49 AM
Some Paint shops may have. I know they have a way to point at a color & calculate Color for Base . 
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: G.B. (All Vinyl Dragon) on July 17, 2018, 12:02:54 PM
OK,

Found this Info:

http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1951-Kaiser-pg01.jpg
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: MarkH on July 17, 2018, 09:12:04 PM
OK,

Found this Info:

http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1951-Kaiser-pg01.jpg

I had very good results from them and a choice of paint type & brand. Bought the "house" brand, painter said it laid down like PPG.
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: G.B. (All Vinyl Dragon) on July 17, 2018, 11:15:50 PM
OK,

Found this Info:

http://www.autocolorlibrary.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1951-Kaiser-pg01.jpg

I had very good results from them and a choice of paint type & brand. Bought the "house" brand, painter said it laid down like PPG.

MarkH,
That’s  Good to know. Paint has got so expensive. Other things to. It takeaway the Fun Out of The Hobby.
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: 1953manga on July 18, 2018, 02:58:47 PM
Thank you for the responses, was able to get the paint formula and the paint correctly mixed
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: Roadmaster49 on July 18, 2018, 08:22:08 PM
Caribbean Coral is a great color. 
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: HJ-ETEX on August 23, 2018, 09:09:14 PM
Well, I like Caribbean Coral myself. My 51 Deluxe is that color. But here are several things you should know.
1) There are variations in the color. 49-50 Kaiser Deluxes had this color (and a neat fender script), but it doesn't match the 51 color.
2) Sunlight fades this color. I thought the package tray on my 51 was silver/grey but it was originally body color and the red had faded out.
3) A period color chip is almost worthless. Chips in a book fade as well. If you want to get the best idea of what the color looked like, remove the speedo cluster and look BEHIND it.
4) Read the chip page closely. Caribbean Coral was supplied by the paint company pre-mixed.  There are not any mixing instructions.
5) I decided back in 1987 to just look at cars on the road and find what I thought most closely matched Caribbean Coral. My final opinion was 1976 Cadillac Fire Mist Cherise.   
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on August 23, 2018, 10:32:12 PM
Any PPG jobber can get you the K-F color you need if Ditzler (PPG's paint unit back hthen) supplied it to Kaiser-Frazer.  The PPG color library can reproduce any color off their master reference chip; they have a computer spectromer that scans the chip and translates it to a mix of currently available colors.  The company passes on the formula to the jobber at no cost as part of factory support of jobber sales.  Jobbers are NOT supposed to pass on the formulas to retail customers.

Ditzler was the primary supplier of paint to Kaiser-Frazer, with DuPont, Rinshed-Mason and Acme White Lead Company (Acme Paint) were secondary sources.  When you talk to the jobber, he will need the color name K-F had for the color and the PAINT number off the firewall tag.  This will distinguish if your original paint was hi-temp baked enamel or lacquer.
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: HJ-ETEX on August 24, 2018, 08:55:36 PM
I wish that worked, but I doubt it.
Paint companies boost about using a spectrometer but again you need to show a hidden part that has not been exposed to light.
Title: Re: caribbean coral paint formula
Post by: G.B. (All Vinyl Dragon) on August 25, 2018, 03:24:46 AM
Spectrometer, Thanks HJ-ETEX I almost forgot what they called it.

I most of the Time The Trunck Lid is a good place to Check Color . This is Color Base. If metallic Your Folks that are True Pro would be good for that. They also being a Pro doing this all the Time can get it Right.