Kaiser Frazer Owners Club Forum
General Category => Cars For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: Mr Manhattan on November 12, 2018, 12:03:14 PM
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How do I post Photos ? I have them listed under "Attached.
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Never mind they posted. The Frazer has been in his family 40 years, It an Automatic !! He is open for offers.
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How do I get5 them BIGGER ?
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Looks like you may have posted thumbnail photos. Do you have the URL where the pictures came from? Post a link to the pictures and anyone interested can go directly to the website.
All 51 Frazer convertibles were automatics.
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Bigger Photos )
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That would be an EXTREMELY AMBITIOUS AND COSTLY restoration project. Neither one my '51 Frazer hardtops (since sold) were that bad and it took us years and we never finished one of them because we just got burned out trying to make it all come together.
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The car appears to be complete. Did anyone find out how much money he wants for it?
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He is taking offers.
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There is a large thread on the AACA forum on those Lincolns. Based on the Lincoln thread, I would expect he wants $8000 to $15,000 for this Frazer. He will be basing that off price guides and those are inflated.
It’s always fun to still see these finds pop up but sad that they could not have been released sooner.
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To contact phone ......417-717-7552 Ask for Jeffery or Craig
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A comment on price guides...the OLD CARS price guides have not moved in value significantly on K-F or willys products in years; they are lower than the information State Farm uses for cars of same condition. Barbarea & I know this from first hand expedrience.,
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Looks like you may have posted thumbnail photos. Do you have the URL where the pictures came from? Post a link to the pictures and anyone interested can go directly to the website.
All 51 Frazer convertibles were automatics.
Weren't the first six Frazer convertibles stick shift with overdrive?
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A comment on price guides...the OLD CARS price guides have not moved in value significantly on K-F or willys products in years...………………. Barbarea & I know this from first hand expedrience.,
Very true for the Aero also, couple decades at least. Real life sales struggle to come anywhere close to those values unless a car is exceptionally pristine.
Given that, my insurance company allowed a higher declared value than top book price on my restoration and will go higher after completion with an appraisal. Whether anyone would ever write a check for even the current value is doubtful.
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This is true; our HJ had a similar situation and I do know of another Kaiser where the replacement value is much higher than normal market price because the owner backed up his request with invoices and other proof of investment. Some companies are taking into account the actual replacement cost rather than market.
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To answer an earlier question - it is purported that the first six 51 Frazer hardtops were stick shift equipped cars. I know that cars number one and four are so equipped.
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Bidding ended att $9600!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Frazer-Manhattan-Convertible-Rare/352539562263?hash=item5214fed117:g:cWUAAOSwIGxcDEuL&vxp=mtr
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It's tough to hold back and not comment on that result. I bid $70,000 for the Lincoln lot. He starting bidding low and had a buy it now at over $100,000. I knew I was not going to meet the reserve. It ended at $50,100 for the Lincolns or about 37% of what the bidders thought of his Buy It Now.
Whoever is selling has every right to ask what he wants but I think at nearly $10,000 for this car, with a strong 24 bids, you are looking at the defacto market value of a full-on 1951 Frazer convertible project. That's good money and the seller ought to take it!
I don't think it's the same as my shill bid on the Lincolns. People were bringing their prices up incrementally wanting to buy it. I just don't get reserve auctions, I really don't. Yes, a seller can lose money, and yes each auction creates a different demand. In some cases the auction has a lot of money in the room - for nicer cars, think Scottsdale - and it's hard to say what's going on here.
I applaud the fellow who found these cars and stored them for someone to do something with them. But outside of that, having a reserve is insane. Move them! Next auction, just start the auction at the lowest amount you will take for the darn thing and if the market determines it's value is higher, so be it!
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If there's anyone interested, I know of a 51F convertible in similar condition that could be had for a tad over half the selling price of this car. It ran and lot drove when it was parked in clean, dry storage a few years ago.