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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: darrin502 on August 10, 2019, 09:20:11 AM

Title: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: darrin502 on August 10, 2019, 09:20:11 AM
Is there anyone out there that reproduces vintage VIN Tags?
Thanks
Lee
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: mbflemingkf on August 10, 2019, 01:15:13 PM
Lee,  check with A.G. Backeast (yes that's the business name!), www.datatags.com.

Several years back, I had them reverse stamp (stamp from the back) one of Rudy's reproduction engine ID tags.  Wasn't cheap but came out perfect and looked exactly like the original...very happy and they were easy to deal with.

They're in Colorado.  Maybe others have had dealings with them?

Mike
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: darrin502 on August 10, 2019, 01:22:39 PM
Thank you so much.
I will check them out.
Lee
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: Terry T on August 10, 2019, 04:30:55 PM
don't get   ...039, that's mine
while running the Registry, someone came to me with a S/N same as one I already had--proved to be a fake
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: darrin502 on August 10, 2019, 04:45:32 PM
This is for one of my cars I am missing the large paint @ trim tag.
Lee
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: Kory Fox on August 10, 2019, 08:18:39 PM
I have told the story here several times but basically I lost both tags on my car when the body shop closed it's doors as my car was being finished. If I wanted to have this company reproduce them, how would that work with nothing for them to reproduce from?
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: mbflemingkf on August 10, 2019, 10:25:27 PM
Kory, give them a call and discuss.  They've been doing this for a long time and doubt if missing plates is a new problem.  Let us know what you find out.  A model/template is in the KFOCI Handbook or another member can probably supply photos but you'll need to know the numbers from your car for them to replicate. Is it in the registry?  Do you have photos of the plates?

Make sense?
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: darrin502 on August 10, 2019, 10:52:14 PM
I am going to contact them Monday and I will get the information I also have the small tags for them to replicate. I will post when I get the information.
Lee
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: Kory Fox on August 11, 2019, 06:33:01 AM
That would be great. Thanks.
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: MarkH on August 11, 2019, 09:39:30 AM
My Aero trim/paint body tag was triple stamped . AG Backeast had that style & did a good job. Smooth black paint instead of "stippled" but extremely close to OEM.

There's a guy from the Netherlands on ebay with Aero door post serial # tags with correct etched & smooth surfaces and look like perfect OEM tags.
Also has a variety of other Jeep/Willys tags, not sure about KF tags. Much cheaper than AG Backeast. His ebay name is something like dataplates.

EDIT: Found him, dataplates4u   Here's a link to his store, https://www.ebay.com/str/dataplates4ustore?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: darrin502 on August 13, 2019, 11:37:03 AM
I have contacted both AG Backeast and Dataplates 4 U about the Darrin data plate.

AG Backeast will do the large plate for $325.00 plus shipping ? made from aluminium. They were originally Zinc. they are in Colorado.

Data plates 4 U will do the large plate for $145.00 plus $20.00 shipping made of stainless steel.
They are in the Netherlands.

I do not know the quality of either company.

I have put in the pictures of the tag i am talking about.
Lee

Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: Kory Fox on August 13, 2019, 07:19:30 PM
Thanks for the info. Darrin.

Mbfleming, I guess I should've clarified. That's what I'm trying to figure out is how I know what info would've been on each tag. Never thought to take pics cuz I didn't even know the shop was gonna remove them to paint. I know the exterior color, according to my dad is supposed to be called sportsman beige. And the interior is the same interior I've seen on the vast majority of 48' that I've ever seen.
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: darrin502 on August 18, 2019, 02:52:53 PM
Ordered a plate from data plates 4 u will let you know how it came out.
Lee
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: Kory Fox on August 20, 2019, 03:26:32 PM
Noone can tell me what info would be on the tags?
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: Gordie on August 20, 2019, 09:22:22 PM
If the Darrins data plates have Willys Motors on the data plates instead of Kaiser-Willys wouldn't they really be a Willys Darrin?  I realize that they were advertised by Kaiser rather than Willys but why would the data plates have Willys Motors if they were indeed made in a Kaiser plant and have a Willys engine?
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: darrin502 on August 28, 2019, 03:28:02 PM
Below is the proof of the large Darrin Data Plate  from Dataplates4U.
I think it looks great. will have actual plate soon.
Lee
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: MarkH on August 28, 2019, 10:10:02 PM
AG Backeast does really nice quality work, but this guy definitely takes it up another notch or two on details.
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: G.B. (All Vinyl Dragon) on August 29, 2019, 01:29:41 PM
Gordie,
This is another Great Question ?

Remember Frazer Ended In 1951 Model. I have had Many look Under My Hood, Our Family had a Frazer ? Yes, Kaiser Frazer.

But Didn’t Early Frazer Say Graham-Paige on The Plates?
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: Gordie on August 29, 2019, 04:49:52 PM
The first cars made by K-F were produced by Graham Paige in the K-F plant and all had G-P data plates.  After Joe Frazer sold his interest in K-F on Jan. 31st 1947 they continued to use up G.P. data plates for a few months  and made 9,940 cars with the GP data plates and they were issued G.P .owners manuals which are now hard to find.  Not many of the early G.P Frazer's have survived. I have seen early non G.P. Frazer's with G.P. owners manuals so they apparently used up the remaining owners manuals as well.  A total of 36,120 Frazer's were made as 1947 models.  The first Frazer's had several unique features that made them easily identified.
Title: Re: VIN Plate Reproduction
Post by: darrin502 on September 25, 2019, 07:48:59 PM
I received the vin plate from dataplates4u.com today it is perfect. I will post a picture as soon as I get my computer fixed. If you need a vin plate use Robert. He is very reasonable.
Lee