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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: fathersondream on November 19, 2010, 09:46:44 PM

Title: kfclub membership????
Post by: fathersondream on November 19, 2010, 09:46:44 PM
Been 34 days since i joined the club with no sign of membership package.Is this normal?Thanx
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: kaiserkid on November 19, 2010, 09:56:15 PM
Yep. Almost two months for me.
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Post by: Logan on November 20, 2010, 01:19:58 AM
Well, that's not good.  Guys, is this normal?  Hopefuly you will get your materials soon.
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Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on November 20, 2010, 01:36:59 AM
Please refer any questions about lag time in membership or new member packets directly to the Membership person.   Deborah Wilson, 334-636-5873, email address membership@kfclub.com.  The editors of the Monthly Bulletin or Quarterly have NO, repeat NO involvement is problems with not getting publications, new membership situations, etc. 

Please take special note that the Bulletin Editor HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RENEWALS!  We keep getting them & can do nothing with them. 
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: joefrazer on November 20, 2010, 08:40:34 AM
ALL INQUIRIES PERTAINING TO CLUB PUBLICATIONS ARE TO BE REFERRED TO THE CLUB SECRETARY!! He can be reached at kfoci@hotmail.com.

Please note that there may be a slight delay as he recently experienced a death in his immediate family and obviously has other things on his mind right now.

Thanks!
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on November 20, 2010, 10:54:08 AM
I thought the Membership Secretary handled new member stuff...that's why the position was supposed to have been created.   

Maybe space should be used in club publications by the club officers to explain who does what.  Barbara gets people complaining about things from 'I sent my renewal in a year ago & don't have any bulletins, etc'  to 'enclosed is my renewal check'.  We also get calls about people not getting their membership materials or publications.  That's why she started the separate box in the Monthly Bulletin to tell people not to send or call her.  Still they do it.
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: HJ-ETEX on November 20, 2010, 07:27:53 PM
Jack: I fully understand! The Club tries to be clear about where inquiries go, but people use the address they have at hand. Adding a Membership Secretary was expected by most to add confusion concerning who to contact.
Miss Charlotte was working on a statement of what functions Club officers were responsible when I was VP. I had to say the VP was called upon at the National whenever a responsible life form was needed. This included parking lot monitor, judging non-automotive events, and telling Adam Harder not to do burn-outs in the parking lot. 
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: fathersondream on November 20, 2010, 07:46:57 PM
was just wondering.thanx
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Post by: kfnut on November 21, 2010, 09:40:03 AM
HI
 AS the husband of the membership manager i can tell you Deb is very diligent about getting her end SQUARED AWAY . She is on the computer every couple of nights taking care of business .
  THe list of responsibilities of officers has been listed in the Monthly but i quess people only look at their favorite sections , not the whole thing . Also , i know for a fact  , our Postal service loses things .
I am confident that our officers , all volunteers , do the best they can to keep a very large club operating as smoothly as possible . If you can keep everything operating smoothly , you should volunteer to do the job . The club always has trouble finding people to do these jobs .
  There are things that are out of anyone's control such as being out of town or family difficulties . I see a lot of complaining on the forum about differant things going on in the club and i don't think the forum is the place for it . Get on the phone to the person who may be able to correct it or get you going in the right direction with a problem .
The forum , in my opinion should be for advice or help for our cars
 I have been reading all the fussing discussions and just got tired of it so i am getting this off my chest .
Thanks for letting me VENT .
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: HJ-ETEX on November 21, 2010, 07:01:15 PM
And the Membership Manager makes a great Sunday Breakfast!
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on November 22, 2010, 10:34:17 AM
In what issues (and their page numbers) of the MONTHLY BULLETIN are the duties of the various officers (not name, phone number, title and email) listed?  I haven't seen any listing of this information and going back over past bulletin issues I cannot find anything.

I know that some people are swamped from time to time due to situations on the home or work fronts (I'm in the same boat) and know that people are doing the best that they can.  I am also aware that some people volunteered for positions over the years based on incorrect information given them as to how much time the job will require, etc...if they knew the real situation they probably would not have offered.

It is my belief that people with complaints or questions list in the forum because either they do not know who to go to (duty wise), are told by the person they go to that "I have nothing to do with that" (Barbara gets several calls/emails/letters each week asking or comlaining about things not related to the Monthly Bulletin) or get no reaction at all.  I would expect that one or more of the club officers would follow up on postings to see what the actual situation with the member is.  I can tell you from first hand experience that I have put questions out there, know that club officers have seen the questions and I never get a reply.  This is a two way customer service street, especially if one doesn't know who to contact or they get no reply to their inquiry.
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: pnw_oldmags on November 22, 2010, 02:12:35 PM
As I recall the officier responsibilities were outlined in the KFOCI Bylaws.  I will try and dig a copy up tonight.
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: ben-tex on November 22, 2010, 02:24:23 PM
Ther is NOTHING in the bylaws about a "membership manager" unless the bylaws have been revised. I have not been a part of management for some time so I don't know how this position was created.
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Post by: vettelang on November 23, 2010, 12:03:32 PM
As a relatively new member I would like to comment here. What should a new member receive? I have been since January 2010 and I have been receiving Bulletins (by mail, not electronically). I received the 2010 Volume 12 Quarterly, but did not make the roster listing. I have no knowledge of and have never received an "introduction packet", by-laws, judging, etc.....

Member 10066

Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: HJ-ETEX on November 23, 2010, 07:37:18 PM
vettelang - Once upon a time if you want a judging sheet, you had to go to a National, have your car judged, and hang around until after the awards presentation to receive the filled out sheet for your car. Some years ago we ran a copy of the judging sheet in the Quarterly BUT it wasn't the current form and it wasn't on colored paper. It did give a member an idea of what the judges would be looking for though, and that was the purpose. You could ask someone who has had their car judged lately to make you a copy.   
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: pnw_oldmags on November 23, 2010, 11:21:04 PM
This sample judging sheet should be close ... no guarentee it is current but it should be close.
http://circlekf.com/pnwkfoci/KF%20Meet%20Entry%20Judging%20Sheet.pdf (http://circlekf.com/pnwkfoci/KF%20Meet%20Entry%20Judging%20Sheet.pdf)
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: fathersondream on November 25, 2010, 11:55:14 PM
footnote.fyi.i tried calling the number with no answer.
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: Thomas on December 02, 2010, 09:59:10 PM
Well I guess we just need to wait till the membership materials come, joined in March & still waiting. The members have taken good care my questions & needs, Thanks.
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on December 03, 2010, 05:55:09 AM
1.  What number did you call?  You didn.t specify

2.  If you haven't talked to Jim Lape or Mike Knittel on this, please contact them.  Mike may only be reached on weekends these days...as I recall he's out in the field for the company he works at.
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: fathersondream on December 16, 2010, 10:19:35 PM
Thanks for all you guys help on here!!You are all great!!no membership info.
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: stroker70 on December 17, 2010, 08:34:21 PM
FYI I joined via computer and paid paypal on 10/23/10 and nothing has made my mail box as of today 12/17. I did get an email response to my inquiry about the delay from Deborah at membership@kfclub.com  and she said I would get at least the club bulletin out of Ohio in about a week and that was on Dec 1. Nothing yet. She said the membership packet would come out of Texas. I'm not too concerned yet but I do wonder when my membership callender year starts and ends. Has anyone considered offering an emailed version of the bulletin? My local Studebaker club offers it and I really like it that way. Pictures are in color and you can archive or print up a perfect copy with no folds or staples.It would save on postage too.   
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: ben-tex on December 18, 2010, 11:20:33 AM
Email version IS available now and has been for some time. I no longer get the paper version but some folks get both I guess by choice.
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Post by: Logan on December 19, 2010, 03:33:58 AM
How do you get the e-mail version?
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Post by: joefrazer on December 19, 2010, 09:37:48 AM
To get the email version, just write the club bulletin editor at KFOCI_Monthly@yahoo.com and request it. You'll be added to the email distro.
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: HJ-ETEX on December 20, 2010, 08:56:35 PM
For several decades, the KFOCI was run rather informally. The Charter Members were supposed to govern the Club, but death or lack of interest in the Club caused a situation where there weren't enough of these people. After a while there was a revision of the Club Charter/Constitution and a realignment of the Divisions & Regions. I hope after all these years members will concede the changes were appropriate.
The current Club Constitution makes no mention of of a Membership Manager but the previous document had no references to any publications positions. Perhaps changes in the the governing document are in order.   
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: Logan on December 20, 2010, 11:30:42 PM
Thanks, joefrazer, I sent the e-mail off.
Title: Re: kfclub membership????
Post by: Thomas on December 22, 2010, 09:46:53 PM
Just curious, as what the membership packet consists of? (If one shows up I'll know what it is.)