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General Category => Parts For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: Ken_Parkman on December 28, 2011, 11:48:21 AM

Title: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Ken_Parkman on December 28, 2011, 11:48:21 AM

Anyone have a new cam gear for the 161 6-cyl? I've tried several suppliers without any luck.

Thanks
Ken

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Fid on December 28, 2011, 11:51:22 AM

Have you tried www.kaiserwillys.com ? I see they have one, Item #: 642516 listed at

http://www.kaiserwillys.com/category/willys-jeep-engine-timing-gears-sprockets-parts-accessories

I know www.kanter.com also had them.

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Ken_Parkman on December 28, 2011, 12:06:29 PM

Thanks Fid. I tried them both, but the gear seems to be no longer available. I was told they might be able to get one, not sure. Hoping someone here has one, otherwise I will see if they can get one from whoever their supplier is.

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: AZ_HJ on December 28, 2011, 07:43:45 PM

Ken,

Which gear are you looking for the all metal small gear or the large Phenolic gear? 


The small metal gear looks like this one on eBay  http://www.ebay.com/itm/642477-CRANKSHAFT-GEAR-WILLYS-L6-161-24-TEETH-NOS-/250061423627?hash=item3a38d2840b&item=250061423627&pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

You might want to check with Jungle Jim Willy to see if they have stock on one or the other gear:  http://www.willysjeepparts.com/Camshaft_And_Timing_Gears.htm

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: mbflemingkf on December 28, 2011, 08:49:43 PM

Ken, do you have a part number?  Mike

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Fid on December 28, 2011, 09:43:32 PM

There were two different cam gears used on the 161 six. The one on the 1951/52 Henry J is KF part number 208807. The one used on the 1953 Js was a little thinner, 1 7/32" wide and it's KF part number 214387.  The one that was used on the earlier cars is a bit wider but I believe they interchange. The crossref numbers are Micro Test 8-2904 also Willys 804999 or Willys 642516

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Barnum on December 29, 2011, 05:53:46 PM

I got the fiber gear for my Willys 161 F Head at kaiser willys .com

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on December 29, 2011, 06:10:45 PM

General note of caution on fiber gears.  Pontiac used fiber gears for the timing chain in the mid-1960's; we had a prototype Grand Prix and when a tooth chipped off, it cracked the gear and it broke in pieces.  Luckilly, I was getting off Interstate 94 a bit east of Madison when it happened, rather than in fast moving tight traffic.  We had to tow the car home and when fixed dad had them replace the broken fiber gear and all the other  fiber gears with metal.

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Ken_Parkman on December 29, 2011, 07:09:16 PM

Thanks for the leads everyone - we are actively pursuing several, will see if it succeeds.

We really should have both gears. It still worked, but the fiber cam gear is worn and the crank gear has some "fissures" caused by rust. I can't find a number on the crank gear, but the cam gear is 642516, and the gear measures .900" wide. If we can't find a set we might go with the E-bay crank gear.

Although still interested if anyone has one!

Thanks again
Ken

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Jim B PEI on December 30, 2011, 08:31:38 AM

Hey Ken, can't quite remember if we actually met at your dad's place, but I'm on PEI too.

I hear that OEM fibre gears might be getting fragile from age, so new is better; too bad its not a Studebaker where you can get a billet aluminum timing gear.

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Ken_Parkman on December 31, 2011, 07:40:34 PM

Thanks for the help everyone. A set of gears is on the way, and so is an intake gasket.

Jim - I don't think we have ever met, but I am reading you Kaiser book right now!

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: AZ_HJ on January 01, 2012, 10:16:17 AM

Ken,

Can you share who the supplier(s) is/are on the gears that you purchased?

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on January 01, 2012, 05:01:14 PM

Hey, Jim PEI...you wrote a book?  Is is an interchange manual?

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Jim B PEI on January 01, 2012, 07:55:09 PM

Nope, I never wrote a Kaiser book. I lent a bunch of old Bulletins and some books etc to Ken's father, Doug...and Ken is very likely enjoying my copy of the  "The Last Onslaught on Detroit." 

(the "guilty party" for that book could take a small bow if he so desires. I HEARTILY recommend it to anyone as a book to buy and keep and have even brought it along for my Studebaker friends to see)

Title: Re: Wanted Henry J 6-cyl Camshaft gear
Post by: Ken_Parkman on January 01, 2012, 09:28:18 PM

The book is very good, I greatly enjoyed it!

The gears are coming from:

http://www.kfparts.com/

but it seems like he is running out.