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General Category => Frazer Forum => Topic started by: truckmen on April 07, 2012, 01:38:01 PM

Title: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: truckmen on April 07, 2012, 01:38:01 PM
Hi all,  :)

I did a little searching on "GoogleImages" as well as here for images of the interior of a '51 Frazer to get a better idea of what they look like inside but to no avail.
 
Would anyone here like to post one or two images and particulary one or two showing the inside door "buttons" used to open the doors?

Ralph
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: Doc on April 07, 2012, 07:14:49 PM
Ralph, I sent you an email. I can send you jpegs.

Doc
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: truckmen on April 09, 2012, 09:20:26 AM
Ralph, I sent you an email. I can send you jpegs.

Doc

Thanks Doc,

I sure did get it and have been looking at the images of the buttons you'd sent.
I'll add more info when I return back to the States and see the 51 Frazer I've just purchaased from Ken.

Ralph
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: KWZ on April 10, 2012, 10:20:45 AM
I just had a set reproduced for my '51 convertible.  I got tired of putting my fingers through baked originals. 
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: Doc on April 10, 2012, 05:00:20 PM
Metal or plastic repro?  That's an item I haven't seen mentioned before as related to repro.
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Post by: KWZ on April 10, 2012, 07:37:33 PM
Plastic.  They look exactly like original, and match the steering wheel, radio controls etc. perfectly.  The shop that did the bulk of the work on the car did them last year for me.  I think they still have the mold if someone wants a set. 
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: KWZ on April 11, 2012, 02:26:37 PM
Here is a shot of my interior taken at the Easter  2012 show here in St. Louis.  Cut and paste the link into your browser:

http://www.huffreport.com/2012/2012%20easter/DSC011031651.jpg
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: joefrazer on April 11, 2012, 02:48:53 PM
Are those plastic door buttons? My 51F convert had plated pot metal units.
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Post by: joefrazer on April 11, 2012, 06:40:05 PM
And...it doesn't mean they were right in my convert too!
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: KWZ on April 11, 2012, 08:19:27 PM
I am pretty sure the plastic door buttons are correct for 1951 Frazers.  I thought only 49-50 KFs had the plated metal ones.  I have had two '51s with the plastic buttons, and I am aware of at least 7 other '51s in Missouri with plastic buttons.  My guess is that as the plastic buttons failed (which they do) people swapped them out for the more reliable metal ones. 
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Post by: Fid on April 11, 2012, 08:21:22 PM
We had a '51 Frazer standard and they were definitely plastic in that one.
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: Jim B PEI on April 12, 2012, 07:08:28 AM
I've never myself actually seen the plated metal ones in 49-50 KF products as KWZ states, but I will take everyone's word for it that they do exist, and likely, were a sensible replace for the plastic at the time. My 49 Kaiser has the plastic ones, and I have always wondered what I would do if the plastic failed due to age...
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Post by: Fid on April 12, 2012, 08:37:20 AM
We had a '49 Frazer Manhattan which definitely had the chrome buttons. Here's a picture -
(https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a6d700b3127cceed7f1c8c0d8a00000030O01SatmLdmyB7efAA/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00203070160520160922012723619.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: Doc on April 12, 2012, 04:30:19 PM
We have chorme ones on three of our four 51s, including one each sedan, convertible, and hardtop. We have two for use on the second hardtop that have the Frazer ensignia. I foind the metal retainers for the little pin are broken on each end on all of them; still usable but must be careful.
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on April 13, 2012, 05:13:27 AM
According to the 1949 Parts book, "Standard" Frazer and Kaiser Specials had the plastic; the 492 and 496 models had diecast (chrome metal) buttons.  I cannot put my hands on the 1951 Frazer book I have but would assume that the same carries over for those cars; Manhattans may have chrome, F515 models with plastics.

Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: Fid on April 13, 2012, 07:48:43 AM
Jim graciously posted the all the Parts Catalogs on line over the winter.
Here's the '51 Frazer list -
http://circlekf.com/kflit/PM/kfpm510.html

The 1951 Frazer catalog lists only plastic buttons("Button, door remote control push rod, starlight pearl"), part number  204863 for all models - F515, F516.
 
Title: Re: '51 Frazer Interior images showing the door "Buttons" anyone?
Post by: KWZ on April 14, 2012, 12:05:43 PM
I've never myself actually seen the plated metal ones in 49-50 KF products as KWZ states, but I will take everyone's word for it that they do exist, and likely, were a sensible replace for the plastic at the time. My 49 Kaiser has the plastic ones, and I have always wondered what I would do if the plastic failed due to age...

To be fair, The only '49s I owned were a Virginian and a Manhattan, so if the Kaiser Specials and standard Frazers had plastic, I will take everyones' word for it.