Kaiser Frazer Owners Club Forum
General Category => Henry J & Allstate Forum => Topic started by: Fid on June 27, 2012, 09:53:30 AM
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This "original" 1951 Henry J has 1952-54 rear quarters and tail lights
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Henry-J-Deluxe-1951-Kaiser-Henry-J-Deluxe-2-door-gasser-hot-rod-collector-car-/280909342952?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item41678068e8
Also missing the hose from the oil filler to air cleaner which means the crankcase may not be properly ventilated. Appears to be a 12 volt battery in it as well.
Likely the seller doesn't know these things.
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Here is another Henry J on ebay.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1952-Henry-J-AIRCONDITIONING-Original-stock-car-new-paint-/110902463718?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19d24d4ce6
Looks Like 3 for sale.... http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=+henry+j&_sacat=6001&_dmpt=US_Cars_Trucks&Make=Other%2520Makes&_odkw=kaiser+frazer+henry+j&_osacat=6001&bkBtn=&_trksid=p4506.m270.l1313
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If the header uses words like "mod" or "rod" the car is clearly presented as a non-original vehicle. Based on the headers, none of the cars should be indicated as original (2 rods, 1 with air conditioning). I must admit I would like to be at the first KFOCI meet where someone comes with a car like this & claims it is all original because "the person who sold it to me said it was all original".
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This one's not on ebay...I found it 10 minutes from my house. It seems the owner's brother bought it while in high school and parked it in the 70s. It definitely needs some serious work!
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Jim, even the one you posted is a 1951 with a 1953 hood ornament! It's amazing how many modifications can take place on these cars over time. One thing the modern restorer may not be aware of is that when some of these cars were put back on the road or "restored" in the 1960/70/80s, the only source for parts were junkyards and swap meets. If your hood ornament was missing, and you found a '53 in a salvage yard, that was better than not having one so you went with it. As a result, you see a lot of examples, especially KFs, with those types of modifications. Now, 2 generations later, the current owner/seller likely has no idea what was changed and when on their cars as previous owners may be deceased or did not know themselves.