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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: MilesP on July 09, 2012, 01:26:59 PM

Title: Motor Number
Post by: MilesP on July 09, 2012, 01:26:59 PM
I just acquired a motor #1149872 does any one have an idea of when it was manufactured and possibly what type of Kaiser. I Hope to have it rebuilt for my 55
Title: Re: Motor Number
Post by: joefrazer on July 09, 2012, 02:46:42 PM
Where's the dipstick? If it's closer to the starter, then you have a 51-5 engine. If it's closer to the oil fill tube, it's an early engine.

Also, one thing to note, a stick shift engine will not work in a hydramatic car unless you swap crankshafts. The auto trans has an end that sticks out that fits into a hole in the crank. Stick engines do not have that type crank.
Title: Re: Motor Number
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on July 09, 2012, 03:56:34 PM
Something doesn't sound right on the engine number.  I recall a 1953 model year memo about modified motors built by Detroit Engine Division during a crankshaft shortage.  The memo lists engine numbers for 226 engines that I thought started with "2" instead of 1.  I know this sounds strange, but can you please post pictures of the engine?  If type of water pump, manifolds and a couple other "accessory items" can be seen we can tell a lot more.

I could do better on numbers but my stuff is still in transit and it looks like at least another 2 weeks or more before I will have it unpacked and accessible again.
Title: Re: Motor Number
Post by: Fid on July 09, 2012, 06:51:43 PM
According to the 1953 issue of Motors Auto Repair, engine number for 1951 Kaisers began with 1100000 or 2000000 and the '52 Deluxe/Manhattan engines began with 1165001 and '53 (with standard trans) began with 2059001 and (Hydramatic) began with 2130001. Based on this, the engine is likely out of a 1951 Kaiser. As Jim points out, it will have to have the correct crankshaft depending on which trans it has. This is from a non-KF publication so keep that in mind. Yes, pictures would help. 
Title: Re: Motor Number
Post by: MilesP on July 10, 2012, 07:48:19 AM
Thanks for the info re the motor. Dipstick is closer to the starter motor already at the machine shop so no pictures available . It was a standard tray  plan to convert to automatic will use the internal parts of my 55 .
Title: Re: Motor Number
Post by: kaiservagabond on July 20, 2012, 04:56:49 PM
If my memory serves right the engine # beginning with "1' is a Continental built engine and the engine with a 2 was  Kaiser built.
Title: Re: Motor Number
Post by: Jeri Conklin on July 21, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Where on the motor can one find the motor number? Easy to find if not pulling engine?
Title: Re: Motor Number
Post by: joefrazer on July 21, 2012, 09:25:12 PM
The motor number appears in 2 places. It's debossed on a metal plate that's near the dipstick, and it's embossed on the block, at the top front edge of the block, driver's side...just below where it meets the head.