Kaiser Frazer Owners Club Forum
General Category => Virginians, Hardtops, Convertibles, & Dragons => Topic started by: Logan on January 24, 2013, 11:30:44 AM
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Nice looking '53 Dragon, black and white for sale in Hemmings http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/kaiser/dragon/1522636.html?refer=news
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That sure is purdy! :)
I'm looking forward to the authenticity comments - helps my Kaiser/Frazer learning curve.
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Beautiful car ... Only things I would question would be the color of paint used on the intake manifold and the carpet in the trunk. I have been thinking all 53 Kaisers had Jute Mats in the trunk. My 53 HJ Corsair Deluxe has the Jute Mat as did both the Manhattans we have owned. Maybe Dragons are different. Love those seat inserts ... wild material but looks right.
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I'm no expert but the engine color looks more like the shade of green used on 51 Frazers and Kaisers. I thought a lighter green was used for the 1953 engines which were also 3 hp more than the previous engines. Attached is the engine bay of the 1951 Frazer Manhattan hardtop that I used to own. When I bought the car its intake manifold was already painted, so I assumed that is the way it is supposed to be. When I needed correct new engine paint for that car, I bought it from Gary Michanek who was given to me as a source for correct engine paint. As you can see the color of this Frazer engine seems the same as the 1953 Dragon for sale. The Dragon is a beautiful car though, and I would certainly be happy owning it. It looks like it also has the power steering option.
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No, carpeting in the trunk is correct for Dragons, and from the picture, this looks original, like the carpeting in my own trunk. Also, engine color was the dark green, same as the 51s, although this color does look a little off. Did you also notice the bambu vinyl on the cardboard trunk lining? Very luxurious!
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Does the Bambu vinyl also cover the inside of the glovebox??
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Yes, it should. It does on mine.
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The paint on the engine is not correct, the vinyl top was not correct, it should have been Bambo, this said the last time i saw it it was owned by Steve Roake , and the material was not available at that time. If he had lived he was going to change it. it runs and drives like a dream. The material on the seats is the MARIE NICHOLS LAGUNA CLOTH . i AM WORKING ON GETTING IT REPRODUCED AND LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE AVAILABLE BY JUNE. also the loopy material for the 53-54 is back on the front burner
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Oh, good catch on the roof vinyl. I didn't notice that. My interior black bambu is all in great condition except for the package shelf, which is sun-weathered. I also need to replace the bambu on the roof. If laguna cloth will be available, that will be GREAT! I need that all around, as it was replaced sometime in the past with plain white vinyl.
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My understanding is that Mr. Roake wanted to have the Bambu on the top and found some of it at Hershey, I am thinking of putting the Bambu on the top as he wanted to do.
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Here's another on ebay. Needs a ton of work but the opening bid is low!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-4-door-1953-Kaiser-/300879660024?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item460dd343f8
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Good eye. Seller doesn't even mention that it's a Dragon that I can see.
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If the VIN # listed in the ad is the door post number (and format looks like it) it is a K530 1953 Kaiser Dragon. Unfortunately, upholstery shown in the photos appears to be Manhattan type. You would have to see the numbers on the large body tag and would have to see an enlargement of the RT front fender picture. It is interesting that the gold plated script and trim is not on the car. Also, check the stainless molding along the roof/deck joint; it will be a bit narrower than the same pieces on a Manhattan, if the stuff is from a Dragon.
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I know where there is a Dragon. I took a picture of it way back when.. I see if I can find it and post the photo.. . Northern Idaho.. between Bonners and Sandpoint.. East side of the tracks.
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Is that another Kaiser in the background in the Hemmings ad?
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Kaiserfrazerlibrary, regarding your upholstery comment it DOES look like it is from a Dragon because the bambu vinyl on the dash is pleated, and on Manhattans this was not the case.
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This car is indeed a Dragon and is about 1.5 hours away from me. I wonder if anyone from the club will buy it? I have the gold trim from the car the previous owner had re-gold plated for the car's final restoration. Obviously, the car's sat for a long time while other projects took precedence.
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I have a 53 black& white dragon in my back yard, the floor pan is great, dash is good have replacement rear sail metal to replace rusted area by back windows, engine is overhauled and under my bench, need to over haul the power steering and get the Maree Nichols material then another one will be on the road