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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ditchy on March 16, 2014, 04:07:26 PM

Title: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: Ditchy on March 16, 2014, 04:07:26 PM
Just found this beauty in Australia:

K502-032201   1366         999 888    1 4 3              Ronco       PA  1950  Custom

 ;D
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: joefrazer on March 16, 2014, 06:34:42 PM
So that's where it went! The last time I saw that car it was in northeast Pennsylvania...
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: Ditchy on March 16, 2014, 06:56:57 PM
This car was featured in the October 1993 Collectible Automobile.  Still waiting on a decision from the guy to sell it to me.
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: Fid on March 16, 2014, 07:08:23 PM
Is that the yellow one with the black upholstery?
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: Ditchy on March 16, 2014, 07:13:07 PM
That's the one, you can tell by the dents in the rear quarter and strip as well as the horizontal bumper "rods".
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on March 16, 2014, 08:18:06 PM
The information I gathered over the years suggested this car was built in December 1948 (as a 1949 model year car) and shipped to the distributor in Washington DC.  It was used by members of the Truman Inaugural Committee but was not an actual parade car.  It was built to the aborted Custom Virginian trim package.  The car was acquired by Ronco Motors in Bangor PA.  It could be possible to have been re-tagged as a 1950 model year car if it was still in dealer hands as unsold and untitled on November 4, 1949.

VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION   Where did the posted info come from?  It appears to be a mix from the door post serial number tag, part of the top line from the firewall body tag and ?????????????.    The SPEC-FO number on the lower line of the Body Tag along with the ITEM and SCHED numbers are needed.  A picture of the firewall tag would be best.   A 1952 Kaiser Manhattan that surfaced in England had a similar situation and it turned out that someone had combined information from several sources and the new owner didn't know about this.

If you are a member of the KFOCI you should have received the KFOCI HANDBOOK information on CD (Version 5.0 is the current version.  You may want to look at the items concerning reading body and door post serial number tags.
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: Ditchy on March 16, 2014, 08:26:44 PM
I have only seen the car once and the serial number is from the driver's side post; the info that I posted on this forum came from the online registry relating to the serial number.  Before (if) the sale goes through I can provide any information that you require.  I will be checking further if I can get another visit.

If I can source this Virginian or a 55 Manhattan, it is my intention to join KFOCI.
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: Fid on March 16, 2014, 08:35:11 PM
That is a very beautiful example. I like the color combination.
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: mbflemingkf on March 16, 2014, 09:19:30 PM
Do you know Ian Dickason down there?  He has several KF products; super nice guy.  He has a 53 Manhattan that I used to own.
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: Ditchy on March 16, 2014, 09:21:26 PM
Are you able to provide Ian's contact details or pass on my email address to him?

landgditchy@bigpond.com

Regards,
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on March 17, 2014, 04:57:16 AM
Ditchy has pointed out the major flaw that has dogged the club registry right from the start.  People who supply incomplete information on their cars do not allow for a good historical "picture" of the vehicles.  Postings should include

Door post serial number
body serial number
SCHED and ITEM numbers
SPEC-FO number if applicable
Paint/Trim numbers
all the numbers on the firewall body tag & the header they are under (top row) or above (lower row).
Any other special tags on the vehicle (primarily the export cars who have tags from the overseas assembly plants or selling distributor)
Status (parts car, junked, restored, original, etc)
Title: Re: 1950 Kaiser 4 dr Virginian Custom
Post by: Ditchy on March 17, 2014, 07:36:11 PM
This car is not for sale, but if I can get the details from the plates, I will advise so that the register can be updated.