Kaiser Frazer Owners Club Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chris Luecht on October 17, 2007, 04:50:31 PM
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Thought this would be a fun way to find out how many cars members of the forum own.
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I guess I should be ashamed to admit this...... but the current number is 42..... :o
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42.............that's amazing. Would you mind giving us a breakdown of the different vehichles, (I know it would probably take some time) Thanks for adding to the Poll,
Best regards,
Chris
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Breakdown of the current inventory....
1 1947 Kaiser Special
1 1948 Frazer Manhattan
4 1949 Kaiser Travelers
1 1949 Frazer Standard
1 1950 Kaiser Traveler
1 1950 Kaiser DeLuxe
3 1951 Frazer Standards
1 1951 Kaiser DeLuxe four door
1 1951 Kaiser Traveler Special
1 1951 Henry J
1 1952 Kaiser Virginian (999-888 Special FO car)
2 1952 Kaiser Manhattan four doors
1 1953 Kaiser Manhattan four door
1 1953 Kaiser Frosted Holly All Vinyl Dragon four door
10 1954 Kaiser Manhattan four doors
1 1954 Kaiser Early Special
1 1955 Kaiser Manhattan four door
2 Willys Pickups
1 Willys Station Wagon
7 Parts cars of various K/F flavors....
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Dang............. make that 43.... I forgot the M-38A1 Willys Jeep...........
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Thanks for taking the time to type them all in, you're fingers must be killing you!!! Quite the collection.
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My dad an I own 4 of them between us. I own 2 and he owns 2, all of which are in my care:
1953 Henry J Corsair Deluxe
1952 Henry J Vagabond
1951 Henry J which was specially built for Edgar Kaiser (my dad's car)
1951 Kaiser Special 4 door sedan (my dad's car)
All are well maintained drive-anywhere cars.
I drove the '51 Kaiser Special to the meet in Sioux City, IA a couple of weeks ago. Put almost 600 miles on it, what great running/driving car.
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Jeez, I feel like a piker with only eight K-F products. A 1947 Graham Paige Frazer, a 1948 Frazer, two 1948 Frazer Manhattans, a 1951 Kaiser club coupe, a 1951 Kaiser custom convertible, a 1953 Willys Eagle and a 1954 Willys Eagle Custom. I do have 32 other vehicles though so they pretty well fill up my garage! Gordie
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Just one currently. 1948 standard Frazer.
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I only have 1. A 1951 Frazer standard. She's been in the family for almost 30 years.
(http://madmanmotorsports.4t.com/images/025_22small.jpg)
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That is a beautiful 1951 Frazer! Just curious as where you got it - I looked at one that color in Omaha, NE back in 1978. I did not buy it but I've always wondered what happened to it and if it survives today.
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I got a 49' Frazer Standard......
(http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5237/carshow019bb3.jpg)
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Fid, it was bought in Des Moines Iowa by my father a long time ago (I was 14 at the time, now 43). He was a member of KFOCI, not sure that he still is after selling me the car.
As far as I know the car was never for sale in Omaha. Even though we used to live in Bellevue and went to several shows a year with the car. She is in good shape but needs a little TLC after sitting undriven for about 5 years. Dad had 2 strokes and couldn't give her the attention that she needed or deserved.
I did drive her all of the way back from Evanston Wyoming 5 years ago and only had 1 problem. Burned up a U-joint going through the mountains. Other than that she ran great.
I plan on making a few shows with her this year.
Chris
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Wow, the timing sure sounds right. I looked at the car I'm refering to in Omaha in 1978, right about when you would've been close to 14. The reason we did not buy the car was because the seller could not produce a title. He was going through a divorce and told us the title was in a safe deposit box in Des Moines! Since we knew the guy for a long time, and knew what a shady character he was, we passed. His X lived in Des Moines and we were afraid we would not be able to obtain the title. We got into a bit of a snit with the guy and decided to walk away. It was a '51 Frazer, same color, and he had purchased it in Crete, Nebraska in 1971. I would not be surprised if it was the same car. The guy's X-wife's name was Wanda.
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I have two of the All Vinyl Dragons...I was lucky to that one of My Dragons was owned by The Man that started the Dragon List of Owners Dragon in the Club Tom Behnke. He found out about a Dragon called an All Vinyl Dragon. Green & White Vinyl Top... Paint 099, Trim 5312 interior with no Laguna Cloth inserts. Richard Langworth The Last Onslaught on Detroit also was starting a list. I passed the list on to Harold Hagen
http://www.eskimo.com/~hhagen/reg/reg.htm Please register Your car in the club. Many Club members have had People contact me if any questions about All Vinyl Dragons. If You have one & I know You , Please email & say Hi... Please Anyone that has one also email Me so we can meet. In the past had Tops , Gold , Chrome done for K.F.O.C. Members. May start again if needed. Best Regards G.B. Bonham # 4307... email at: gbbonham2000@yahoo.com .....
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At this time, I own a 1954 Willys Aero Eagle (Old Toby) that I bought in 1978 and a 1952 Kaiser Manhattan 2-door Traveler that I bought in 2003. Do we get to count the cars we used to own? 10 or 11 or 12 other Willys Aeros, 1 '51 Henry J and 1 '51 Kaiser Deluxe 2-door.
P.S. the new website looks great!
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I presently have a '48 Kaiser 4dr sedan and a '51 Kaiser Deluxe 4dr sedan. I almost purchased a '51 club coupe today, but the owner's wife refused to let me purchase it for the agreed upon price :'(. Very frustrating!
Kevin
Medina, OH
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Fid. We purchased the car from the son of a Dr that bought the car new that also lived in Des Moines.We took a day and went sightseeing and picked up the car from him and drove her back. When we got the car it wasn't in very good shape. The interior was rough, the paint was cracking from way too many coats of corn laquer paint. We stripped the car, straightened the body work. And had Max's body shop in Millard NE paint the car. (Max is a freind of Dad's)
The interior work dad and I did ourselves and I think that it turned out great.
The drivetrain was supposedly freshened up just before we got it and they rolled back the odometer so we have no idea how many "true" miles are on the car. The odometer now reads 10,195.
Its a great car that I love owning and driving when I get the chance. I have some more pics of the car if you are interested. Send me an email or a PM and I will send some to you.
Chris
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Thanks for the info Chris. It looks like my search for the one I passed on will continue. I'm very curious as to where it ended up.
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Your welcome FID.
I found a pictures of her at a car show from last year.
(http://madmanmotorsports.4t.com/pictures/Frazer%20pictures/51F%20car%20show.jpg)
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Once again, very nice car! Here's the only photo I have of the one I have been looking for (https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a6cf04b3127cceede65f8fa8fb00000030O01SatmLdmyB7efAA/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00203070160520161126032731731.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
The photo was taken in Omaha circa 1972. The last time I saw the car, it had been painted, upholstery done and mostly reassembled. That was 1978 and it had a lot of promise. For years it sat in a driveway along Martin Drive or Fontanelle Blvd, right where that railroad bridge was removed in the late 70s. Where is it now? That is my question.
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I know exactly where that was.
That is some of my old stomping ground (among many others)!
Its a small world Fid.
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Wow - I feel bad. I only have 1, but then again I am just getting started;). She (Lenora) should be arriving this week:) Here she is - hope it posts ok.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/PattiXmas/Kaiser/5fb8_3.jpg)
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we have 2 in the garage now but have had one other one now a
1947 ugly modified
1949 bramuda tan
had a 1953 traveler
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Lets see, between my father and myself we have a total of six Kaisers. Dads' 54 Kaiser manhattan and a 54 parts car. A 53 DeLuxe Sedan (parts), A 52 Kaiser Manhattan (restoreable), The 47 Kaiser Special recently aquired from my other father Verner Glenn. And the pride of the managerie, the barn saved 51 Kaiser Special. All of the Kaisers we own are 4-door sedans. We are not so intrested in Frazers even though I think the 49 Frazer Manhattan is quite beutiful. The collection would not be complete without a Willys. I am always looking for a 43 Willys Jeep with a war story ans bullet holes in it! Lets see what I can find!
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Up awful late Jake, or is it early :), I have a 47Frazer Manhattan..
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Only 1----'53 K Manhattan
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1951 Kaiser Deluxe and 1952 Henry J Corsair Deluxe
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The current fleet includes two 47K Specials, a 50K Traveler, a 53 Manhattan, and a 54 Manhattan. The Jeepster pictured just found a new home in Wisconsin.
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I suppose it's better late than never. I have a '54 Kaiser Early Special 2 door , for over 40 years, and a '53 Kaiser Manhattan 4 door recently acquired as a gift from my son.
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I have 2 1949 Kaiser Deluxe, one is a parts car the other is under restoration
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One 1953 allstate under construction and one 1952 Henry J Corsair.
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Here they are
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Any chance you have any more photos of the 52?
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I have only a '48 Kaiser that my grandfather bought from the original owner in 1963. Dad drove it to high school and then it mostly sat in the Iowa weather for the better part of 25 years until I got it in 1997. Started restoration then but then my first son was born and that got put on hold. Now he's 12 and interested in cars so I'm trying to get back to working on it.
Dad also owned a Henry J. I believe '52. He left it in my uncles barn many years ago and it rotted, along with the barn, to the point that the barn fell in on it so my uncle just had the whole thing bulldozed and cleared out.
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Its almost finished. Spent the last 4 months in the garage redoing everything.
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The last photo is of the 53 allstate, my mistake. That one is not as far along as the 52
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One more
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Chris add me to the two car class I have 51 and a 55
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I own 2 a47 frazer standard and a 52 henry j corsair deluxe Don C
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Times change, I am down to one now and that was also the original one from 35 years ago: Old Toby, the 1954 Willys Aero Eagle hardtop.
Over the years, I've owned several. Here's the ones that have gone on:
1949 Willys Station Sedan (steel wagon) (sold, may still exist)
1955 Willys Bermuda 2-dr hardtop (currently owned by Lew Retzer)
1955 Willys Custom 4-dr sedan (junked)
1954 Willys Aero Ace Deluxe 4-door (junked)
1952 Willys Aero Eagle 2dr hardtop (junked - with John Parker)
1953 Willys Lark 4-door (junked - with John Parker)
1952 Willys Aero Wing 2-dr (sold, then junked)
1955 Willys Custom 4-dr (junked - with John Parker)
1951 Henry J 4-cyl no trunk (sold, whereabouts unknown #444 off the line)
1952 Willys Aero Wing 2-dr (junked - with John Parker)
1951 Kaiser Deluxe 2-dr sedan (sold to Gordie Chamberlain, whereabouts unknown)
1954 Willys Aero Ace early special 2-dr sedan (sold to Bill Tilden, about to be junked)
1953 Willys Aero Eagle 2dr hardtop (about to be junked - with Bill Tilden & Dave Horton)
1952 Kaiser Manhattan Traveler 2-dr phantom (sold to Goran Braun)
1953 Willys Aero Lark 4-door (junked)
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I have two at the present time:
1953 Kaiser Manhattan 4dr Maroon with white roof ( my favorite combination)
1954 Kaiser Early Special 2dr Blue with white roof.
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We have six at the present time ... working on a seventh.
1953 Kaiser Manhattan 2 Door - Main Driver - Pea****** Blue
1953 Kaiser Carolina 2 Door - Head off to replace cracked #1 valve - Persian Grey
1953 Kaiser Henry J Corsair Deluxe - Chrome off - been apart for 15 years - Australian Biege
1953 Kaiser Carolina 4 Door - Gulp - Front Clip off and windows out - Disassembled by previous owner - Real Project - Pea****** Blue
1953 Willys Aero Lark 4 Door - A hot pink beauty - Wheels off getting new brake shoes, wheel cylinders and shocks - Fuel Tank Out for Cleaning
1952 Kaiser Deluxe 4 Door - Parts Car - Onyx
Working on obtaining a 1953 Willys Ace 2 Dr Hardtop. ???
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Currently I have a 54 Willys Aero Lark and a 54 Willys Aero Eagle. I have had in the past, 54 Kaiser Manhattan, 59 and two 62 Willys Wagons
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Forty three cars in the collection...only 1 Kaiser, Darrin 145. Kinda gives me the "willys"! Gary.
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Well, let's see. I've owned 69 vehicles over the years and there are a few in the bunch I wish I'd have kept. The hemi Road Runner, the Darrin, and the 1971 Riviera are just a few.
Today, the KF stable consists of:
- 1954 Henry J. It arrived in pieces and I'm currently reassembling a big puzzle.
- 1954 Kaiser Manhattan. My father was the first titled owner...the dealership, Raymond Lake KF here in Cleveland kept the car until 1964 and used it as a parts runner for their Buick garage. The car has gone thru four engines and has about 317K on the odometer.
- 1953 Kaiser Manhattan. It sports a very nice, original interior and a paint job that was applied in my driveway. And it shows...but I don't care because it's fun to drive...and it's a Kaiser!
- 1950 Kaiser Traveler. Originally a Texas car, the first owner used it to pull a 40ft mobile home between his winter home in Odessa and his summer place in Bakersfield, CA. The engine was so worn I could move the pistons around in their bores. After a well deserved rebuild, I'll drive it anywhere...and have!
- 1947 Kaiser Special parts car.
Just a few KFWs that got away:
- The aforementioned Darrin
- A 12K mile 1954 Late Special that didn't have one straight body panel. Abused by every kid in the neighborhood, I rescued it and used it as a parts car.
- The first Kaiser I ever purchased - a 1949 Kaiser Special. I paid all of $50 for it so that should tell you what I got. I'm one of the rare ones though, I resold it for a profit...I made ten bucks.
- 1954 Willys Aero Eagle Custom. I sold it because I didn't have the storage space and then a few months later, bought a nice big barn that came with a house. Live and learn...
- 1952 Kaiser Virginian Traveler. So rusty that you didn't need to open the door to get something from inside. I liberated the few usable parts and today, I'm sure it's a fleet of Toyotas.
- Not one, but three 1950s Willys station wagons. A friend ran a gas station years ago and used them in the service business. They were worn out so we parted them out and sent them off to become yet more Toyotas.
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My 1949
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Just one. 1952 Henry J Corsair Deluxe. Though we previously had a 1952 HJ Vagabond as well, but it was purchased (rather cheaply) for the engine only, it was extremely rough shape (decent body panels all around with only surface rust, but no floor pans left whatsoever, most wiring gone or chewed up, no interior bits to speak of, etc). Had the 6-cylinder engine rebuilt and gave the "carcass" of the Vagabond to the fellow that rebuilt it as payment for the job, as he wanted an HJ to pro-street (surprise, surprise).