Kaiser Frazer Owners Club Forum
General Category => Cars For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: joefrazer on May 04, 2014, 06:06:59 PM
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This is one rare beast. Last Onslaught says 928 made, KF registry has 13 shown, this one makes it 14. I looked this car over and if I didn't already have 5 KFs in the driveway, I'd own it. Seller says it's a parts car because there's no title...I say it's better than that. I saw two small rust spots in the floor, otherwise this is a solid builder. The seller is a flipper...he bought it and another 2 door 51 sedan from an old fellow who "wants to take his girlfriend to Florida".
I do not know of the engine's condition but I can tell you that the interior is useful for patterns only. A Missouri car that was covered and stored for years, the seller says he has a complete glass kit for it.
Seller says best offer owns it.
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/4467775680.html
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Posting deleted. Maybe, we should consider cutting/pasting CL links and adding photos if possible, for future reference but it appears sold and hopefully to a motivated fellow collector. It's spring/summer and a few KF's are changing hands.
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Updated link.
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WILL IN TO SELL ALL OR PART OUT!
I HAVE A KIAZER TRAVELER PARTS CAR! LOOKING TO SELL:
HOOD, FENDERS, DOORS, HATCH, MOTOR, TRANS, GLASS
HAS SMALL PARTS TOO. WILL SELL @ BEST OFFER
YOU MUST COME AND PULL THE PARTS YOU WANT! call for details 216-570-8833
** The above content was added from the post.
http://images.craigslist.org/00v0v_ghU1MCFSGUG_600x450.jpg
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That rear glass, the Darrin work, maybe made the engineers cringe to have to do a Traveler in the new design. 13 in the Registry. 14 here, impressively low numbers. What parts can possibly be extracted to make it more valuable? The rear hatch of course should work on the 4 door 51 Travelers. It would be a shame to part it out and it does not seem like enough eyeballs will see the ad to want parts, especially since most are pick up only, it appears.
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I said to myself no more projects after I got my 49 done but am thinking about it. I called the guy. Just wish he was closer to GA
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I personally inspected the car and if I had the space I would own it. The car needs it all...except serious rust repair...but is worth doing due to its rarity.
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I'm seriously thinking about it. It's a 12 hour trip. If I went after it it would be next weekend.
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If you decide to own it, let me know. I live a short drive from the car's location and you're welcome to stop by and check out my five Kaisers!
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Thanks for the invitation. If i do decide to go up I'll let you know. Would probably head up on a Friday and head back on Sunday. Probably go by a place called Kirtland Ohio on the way.
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Joe
Negotiate a good price. if you have already talked to the seller, as Jim has, maybe he will appreciate the small and specific market for the car and the passion that KF exhibit. Plus your commitment to travel to get it - may help in securing a usable price.
What kind of price is he thinking anyway? "Best offer" means a lot of things. WE know it's rare, and he might too, but that rarity interest lies mostly with KF geeks, not the Mustang and Camaro crowd.
$500? I think it's a $500 car easy because of Jim's specific notation of lack of rust. Rust as we know is a value killer. The rest of it can be done. Even if you hesitated in it's restoration, you would be doing the KF community a BIG favor by securing it.
I am moving June 13 back into Des Moines Iowa from a 3 car garage with room for another 3 cars around it to a 2 car garage and "maybe" room for one car behind the fence. I lost about $12,000 last year on these non runners that I would buy with high hopes, so go into it with a clear conscience. But it is a good one.
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I figured it was worth between 500 to 700 at the crusher. I offered on that range and he seemed agreeable. I like it because it's a 2 door Traveler otherwise I would not be interested. I've gone through a 49 so I understand things like tires, chrome, seat covers, rubber and so forth. I'm not looking to make money on the car. I like working on them and driving it. Naturally I'm not wanting to take a bath on it but I have the room and Joe says there is not much rust on the car.
I keep telling myself the next one I buy will be a show car that all I have to do is drive. Never happens that way. Guess I have a weakness for junk.
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I think the car is worth $500 but no more given the bad interior and unknown engine condition. For that kind of money, one could afford to store it for a future restoration.
Joe, I am a stones throw from Kirtland and the temples. For those who may not know, Kirtland was an important stop for the Mormons on their way west. My home stood at that time and probably saw a few pass by. Just a quick history lesson!
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Me and my family are Mormons and have been to Kirtland before. I sold this trip to the wife that we were headed up to visit Kirtland and while in the neighbor
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Might look at an old car. She bought it but after 25 years of marriage she figured out the plot. If nothing happen between now and then we are coming up to get it. As Hank Williams would say "Good Lord willing and the creeks don't rise".
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Sounds great! It is always best when you can stop and see the country when you go pick up an old car. Makes the trip more then just a go and come home deal and that Kirtland sounds very interesting as does the thought of living in a home about as old as Kirtland's temples. (Jim)
You will have to put some high resolution photos of the car on here when you get it.
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I will. Looking forward to meeting Joe, seeing his cars and the whole trip. My 49 is almost ready to paint and I have the insides ready to install. So maybe by the time I am done I can start on this one. It being a two door Traveler is what sold me. I was thinking about a Frazer but guess this one will do. Maybe when I am finished a Frazer will appear. If I'm not careful I'll be like Joe with 5 of them in the driveway.
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Something at work interfered with me leaving town so the car is still available. It will be about a month before another window of opportunity opens up for me so if the car is still there then I'll get it then.
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That's too bad. Was the negotiated price $500? I would be willing to go in on a $250 donation for a KF member local to the car (not meaning you Jim) to at least grab it and save it for now. I am afraid that this one will go to the crusher if there is no sincere interest.
I would buy it but would need to move my BMW out, and there have been no takers. So a free will donation to a motivated buyer is the best I can do right now.
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I had offered 700 for it. If it will hold for a month I'll come after it. I just can't get lose from work right now.
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The seller called me yesterday and wants it gone. He didn't tell me the top offer but I see it here....mine was half that. Apparently, he's being pressured to clear the lot of non-runners. I don't know the seller beyond one meeting when I first looked over the car so I don't know how much of that pressure is real or just his desire to make the car go away.
If I had the space I'd say park it here but I already have two 47s, an 81 Eldorado, and my truck sitting outside. Things are just a bit tight!
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Anyone else active in the club near by? With a field? ;D
At least we know it won't be over $700. Let me see if I can call him tonight. Hopefully not too late. Remember, crushers pay $250-$400 a ton, so it could go anytime.
The transport would be more then the purchase, for me. Jim, would the car roll or are some tires shot? I have had a heck of a time lately when cars are picked up by my transporter, one or more tires are beyond holding air and it's not fair to him to load it at $1 a loaded mile.
Otherwise my "Save a Kaiser" offer still stands. $250 toward it's purchase and saving. I saved a 52 Buick and a 50 Hudson last year in the same way.
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I called today and he agreed to hold the car until the first week of July. My plan would be to go get the car then. If someone buys it before then that's ok with me. If not my plan is to get up there then and get the car.
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The tires hold air and it does roll. This car is worth a restoration.
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Just spoke with the owner. The car is still available. If all goes well I will be there on the 26/27 of June to get it.
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Got a call today from the owner...the car needs to go. It sits at the rear of a mixed use commercial area and I'm guessing the city is after him to move it. I have 5 KF products now and do not need 6. If anyone out there is interested, please contact me and I'll pass along the seller's info.
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Had a lot of things happen including losing one job and starting another. I'll buy the car but can't get up there to get it for a month or so. Do you have a place to hold it for 30 to 60 days? If so I'll send a check.
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Had a lot of things happen including losing one job and starting another. I'll buy the car but can't get up there to get it for a month or so. Do you have a place to hold it for 30 to 60 days? If so I'll send a check.
I too would have purchased it if there was a local (within 100 miles) KFOCI member that could keep it for 30 days. Need to shuffle cars around. I have more coming in then going out. So, the cost of the vehicle is not the issue for us. As noted, it's the distance and cost to transport. Making the hobby more of a local hobby more and more. It takes a really special car to justify expense and commitment to go get.
I am in the middle of a purchase of a 1942 Packard 180 Limousine out of Berwick, Nova Scotia that I offered $2000 to the seller thinking there was no way he would accept. No one else stepped forward, a lot of talk, and so he accepted my offer on a 30 year, inside heated stored very rare CCCA full classic.
Transport has been the issue. Transport is $2500, which I why offered $2000 for a $7000 + car. I should be OK price wise getting the car all in for $4500. But the fun just starts there. I have found exactly 2 transporters to do the move, and had to use UShip which I don't care for. It's not here yet, but I have already paid for the car and will front 1/2 on the transport. I use a great shipper out of Wisconsin for domestic moves at $1 a loaded mile.
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The car is located about 20 minutes from me but unfortunately, I have nowhere to store it. On the one hand, more space would be great but on th other, it wouldn't be hard to end up with too many toys!
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Sold.
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Good. Hopefully saved and to a motivated restorer and possible new member.