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General Category => Henry J & Allstate Forum => Topic started by: 51HJ on August 08, 2014, 10:18:58 AM

Title: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: 51HJ on August 08, 2014, 10:18:58 AM
I'm restoring a very early 1951 Henry J and finally got the Aloha Green matched. ( it only took over a year and help from club members) The paint stores that I deal with are very difficult and now I'm trying to match the heater box ( gray) and the steering column ( gold/brown ? )
Has anyone been able to match these colors and can you tell me what you used?
I'm not on here very much, so if you would ,please use my direct email. Hemi484@aol.com
Thanks,

Steve
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: Terry T on August 08, 2014, 12:17:31 PM
heater box is hammered gray--available in spray cans
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: Fid on August 08, 2014, 10:25:08 PM
Steve, most of the early aloha green Js I've seen have metallic brown steering column and trim. That doesn't mean they all do/did though. I don't remember if the '51 J data tag has an "I.P." column on it or not (interior paint) which would tell you. But Terry is correct, the gray on the heater is not the same as the gray on the steering column and trim.  My dad painted the heater in my '53 J with "crinkle paint" back in the 1970s. I think the hue is a little darker than the original was. I wasn't sure if it was correct or not but Jim B posted a picture of an NOS unit on here a few years ago confirming that they were indeed a textured finish.
Here's  the picture he posted
(http://circlekf.com/henryj/Photos/Inspect/Heater.JPG)

So mine is closer to original than I thought.
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: Corsairdeluxe on August 09, 2014, 07:17:24 AM
The hammertone grey comes in a can at home depot about $4 and does a fine job. I do not have an exact source for the brown.
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: 51HJ on August 09, 2014, 09:13:43 AM
The heater that is in this car is a three door and the color is very light gray, almost a primer color, see picture. Because this was first sold  in December 1950, it might be different. I don't know.
There's not a IP number on the accessory tag but the trim is 4404, here's a picture of the trim piece that I need to match.
Thanks again
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: Fid on August 09, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
Steve, that heater was the same one used in 1949/50 Kaisers. Some were gray and most were tan.  Another testament to your car being an early one. Some of the earliest ones had the 1947/48 KF "Air Conditioner" in them.  See this one, very early one - brown steering column with no trim and '48 Kaiser heater -
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2ce24b3127ccef11e4169ec7f00000030O01SatmLdmyB7efAA/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00203070160520121006010945142.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: 51HJ on August 09, 2014, 02:37:02 PM
Thanks Lowell, That column support ( open type) is what I have. I found the later type for the color match.
I have found some spray paint that is very close. It's a satin nickel. Both of the hammered paints I found were to dark or to much texture. I'll post a picture soon.
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: 51HJ on August 09, 2014, 10:53:26 PM
The paint I found was to silver. Jim, is there anyway you can get me a part number of the hamertone paint?
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: ReggieFoote on August 10, 2014, 08:09:51 AM
Try this one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RUST-OLEUM-HAMMERED-SPRAY-PAINT-Hammered-Oatmeal-/191276072400?pt=Paint_Paint_Supplies&hash=item2c88f13dd0

Reggie
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: alohagreen on August 11, 2014, 03:18:14 PM
I'm restoring a very early 1951 Henry J and finally got the Aloha Green matched. ( it only took over a year and help from club members) The paint stores that I deal with are very difficult and now I'm trying to match the heater box ( gray) and the steering column ( gold/brown ? )
Has anyone been able to match these colors and can you tell me what you used?
I'm not on here very much, so if you would ,please use my direct email. Hemi484@aol.com
Thanks,

Steve


if you can Steve can you share the paint brand AND mix code
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: 51HJ on August 11, 2014, 04:33:31 PM
What I found is NOT correct. Has to much silver in it. The PPG store and the DuPont store tried to custom mix it and it was not even close to be right. All the spray cans were also way off
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: 51HJ on August 15, 2014, 05:14:03 PM
Can someone please help me match the steering column paint? I just can't believe that these paint stores can't match it Has anyone else had this much trouble or is it just me?
Title: Re: MATCHING PAINT ON '51 HENRY J IN NEED OF HELP
Post by: Quadromaniac on August 15, 2014, 10:40:58 PM
I am having trouble matching the body color on a 53 Allstate. The paint stores tell me it is no longer available in the original formula. I will be going with a base coar/clear coat option. It's Anchor Grey.