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General Category => Parts For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: pnw_oldmags on October 09, 2014, 12:00:11 PM

Title: Willys Aero Brake Drums
Post by: pnw_oldmags on October 09, 2014, 12:00:11 PM: Took my brake drums in to be turned yesterday. :(
Fronts are fine and being turned.

I NEED A SET OF REAR DRUMS for our 53 Willys Aero Lark.

Anyone have a pair for sale??
Title: Re: Willys Aero Brake Drums
Post by: Barnum on October 09, 2014, 01:34:19 PM: Hudson Jet and Nash Rambler used the same brake system 9" The drums may also be the same....have to check to know for sure....but here is a listing for those drums http://then-now-auto.com/antique-auto-parts/brake-drums-and-rotors/amc-rambler-hudson-nash/ I have a few parts sources I will post for you when I get the info ...it is in the car...so I have to get it from there
Title: Re: Willys Aero Brake Drums
Post by: pnw_oldmags on October 10, 2014, 01:30:11 AM: Thanks for the lead. Will follow up in the AM.
Title: Re: Willys Aero Brake Drums
Post by: joefrazer on October 10, 2014, 07:49:47 AM: There is no interchange between Willys and Hudson/Nash drums. The Aero uses a 4 lug drum while the Jet is five. I believe the hub size (wheel fit) may differ as well.
Title: Re: Willys Aero Brake Drums
Post by: Barnum on October 10, 2014, 08:29:13 AM: I knew someone would know for sure....thanks. But they do use the 9x2 brake shoe
Title: Re: Willys Aero Brake Drums
Post by: MarkH on October 12, 2014, 08:45:19 PM: I've got an extra set of used NORS drums, I'd' have to check what they measure.

NORS rears turn up from time to time, fronts rarely. I think the 2 wheel drive Jeep DJ3A Surrey and later postal jeeps (up to early '70's?) used the same 4 lug drums. Fronts have a slightly different offset than rears.

Are you looking for hub & drum assemblies with the drums still swedged on hubs at the studs or aftermarket drums with small lug holes for studs that have had the swedge cut flush to the hub?
Title: Re: Willys Aero Brake Drums
Post by: pnw_oldmags on October 12, 2014, 11:56:53 PM: Looking for rear drums with four lugs. One right and one left. Stud threads are different right and left.
Title: Re: Willys Aero Brake Drums
Post by: MarkH on October 13, 2014, 03:07:33 PM: Quote from: pnw_oldmags on October 12, 2014, 11:56:53 PM
Looking for rear drums with four lugs. One right and one left. Stud threads are different right and left.

If you don't find the L&R hub/drum assemblies you might want to consider cutting the factory swedges that are holding your drums to the hubs, then you just need to look for drums to slip over your hubs/studs like on a modern car.

The knurled shoulder (pressed in part) on factory studs is a larger diameter than the threaded part of the stud and protrudes past the hub face. Original drums have a corresponding oversize hole, and that protruding shoulder is pressed down to those drums, basically riveting them to the hub

I'm not saying hub/drum assemblies aren't out there somewhere, but I haven't seen any, front or rear. Duane Hays may have something available from his parts Aeros though. donegoing2002@yahoo.com (http://donegoing2002@yahoo.com)

I have seen bare drums several times but they have thread sized holes. You'll either need to buy a swedge cutter http://www.goodson.com/Brake-Drum-Swedge-Cutting-Tool/ (http://www.goodson.com/Brake-Drum-Swedge-Cutting-Tool/) or modify a 5/8ths hole saw and carefully cut your swedges down so you can then use bare replacement drums.