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General Category => Henry J & Allstate Forum => Topic started by: mark leigh on December 23, 2015, 12:17:04 PM

Title: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on December 23, 2015, 12:17:04 PM
Hi to all and Merry Christmas-- I am starting a 52 Allstate restoration -- Is there a source for the Allstate brand whitewall tires ----- also what size should they be ? What width is the white wall ? 3 inches ?

 Thanks for all replies -- the car is located in Merced , Calif --- Central San Joaquin Valley area ----  Mark 209-617-8554 

 I need a carb for the 6 cyl and many other parts to come as I get going -
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: Fid on December 23, 2015, 03:19:14 PM
Hi Mark and welcome.
Regarding the tires, the Henry J uses a 5.90 for bias ply.  Sears was still selling tires out of their catalog in the 1990s but I don't think they are any more. It might be worth a check just the same.  The carburettor for a six cylinder is a Carter YF 833 and it looks just like the one used on the four cylinder which is a YF 823. The 823 will not work right a the six - it's different inside. I don' t know of a source for one right now but I'm sure you will get lots of information here.  Best of luck and keep checking back.
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: danny5555 on January 05, 2016, 11:44:34 AM
I've just purchased a 1953 Allstate (4cyl) to re-do. Please contact me as I may have extra parts you'll need. Dan, knee55@aol.com
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: Fid on January 05, 2016, 01:37:58 PM
Here's a carb for it -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carter-YF-1-Barrel-Carburetor-Carb-Core-833-SA-833SA-1951-1952-1953-1954-Henry-J-/172050787341?hash=item280f06ac0d:g:sx8AAOSwFqJWipe9&vxp=mtr#ht_133wt_1124

It looks a bit rusty and the price a bit steep maybe... I don't know. If someone needs one it may be one of the few options.
Good to "see' you Dan - how's your Allstate coming along?
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: h-e-n-r-y-j on January 07, 2016, 08:39:42 PM
I have a complete HJ (same as Allstate) 6 cyl carb available. I would like to sell the carb along with the complete 86K mile engine for $350. However, I will part out the carb and oil bath air cleaner for $145 plus shipping. Will post image soon.

Alan Thomas
Austin, TX
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: JFerriss on January 12, 2016, 10:11:18 AM
I thought you might enjoy the attached PDF file. I recently bought an old stack of Popular Mechanics and Science and Mechanics magazines. In the June 1952 issue of Science and Mechanics I found this article on a review of the "New Allstate".

Enjoy.
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on January 12, 2016, 10:42:22 AM
KFOCI Club members get a CD called KFOCI HANDBOOK when they join.  It is a perk for becoming a member.  In it you will find the Kaiser-Frazer Service Bulletin with a list of Allstate-specific parts.  Anything you need that is not on that list is Henry J. You will also find info on the cars themselves in the general information section.

Sears Roebuck & company scrapped out their Allstate parts inventory prior to 1962. 

I would suggest that you have the Allstate-specific brightwork cleaned up and re-chromed if at all possible (grille parts, emblems). 

Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mwkpeg on February 15, 2016, 05:45:55 PM
If you are interested I have a 4 cylinder genuine Allstate motor engine for sale in the parts section . Allstate tag says serial number 2181. If interested contact me a  jankowskileo@att.net   Very willing to sell or trade for army jeep parts.
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on March 09, 2016, 06:33:04 PM
Hi to all and thanks for the replies -- I am currently shopping for new shocks and brake hoses as well as a gas tank --- any suggestions ?  Thanks
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: Fid on March 09, 2016, 08:19:33 PM
Brake hoses - rear,  NAPA UP 36091.  Front, NAPA UP 5784 or UP381244.  Shocks - rear, RR 94038(NAPA). Front, NS 5751   
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on March 10, 2016, 12:18:11 PM
Brake hoses - rear,  NAPA UP 11146.  Front, NAPA UP 5784 or UP381244.  Shocks - rear, RR 94038(NAPA). Front, NS 5751   



  Thank you !  Ordered all parts , will be here tomorrow
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on March 10, 2016, 02:47:47 PM
I need a source for a fuel pump --- it has the 6 cylinder ---
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: Corsairdeluxe on March 10, 2016, 02:57:21 PM
Do you want single or dual action
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on March 10, 2016, 04:27:25 PM
I have a dual action now -- I just found a repair kit with a diaphragm that looks like it was NOS from the 50's -- I'm thinking that rubber won't survive with today's fuel ???????
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: Corsairdeluxe on March 10, 2016, 07:48:10 PM
Do not waste your time. Several of us have used this on the 6 cyl. HJ with good resultsand it withstands todays gasohol. You may have to change the lines. it's no big deal. Rockauto sometimes has really good prices

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Airtex-4318-New-Mechanical-Fuel-Pump-/262304018085?hash=item3d1289aea5:g:V2EAAOxyRNJShhmD&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on March 12, 2016, 02:27:50 PM
Do not waste your time. Several of us have used this on the 6 cyl. HJ with good resultsand it withstands todays gasohol. You may have to change the lines. it's no big deal. Rockauto sometimes has really good prices

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Airtex-4318-New-Mechanical-Fuel-Pump-/262304018085?hash=item3d1289aea5:g:V2EAAOxyRNJShhmD&vxp=mtr

 Just ordered it !  Thank you !


 I have a new find -- I am missing the front shock seat and support setup that attaches the bottom rod to the A arm -----  I need all four pieces --
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on March 12, 2016, 02:33:51 PM
Brake hoses - rear,  NAPA UP 11146.  Front, NAPA UP 5784 or UP381244.  Shocks - rear, RR 94038(NAPA). Front, NS 5751   



  Thank you !  Ordered all parts , will be here tomorrow

 I received the front shocks but they appear to be longer in overall length ?????
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: Fid on March 12, 2016, 06:20:36 PM
I got those numbers for the shocks off an old parts list that was published in the KFOC Quarterly some years ago. The picture at NAPA online (www.napaonline.com) looks correct but  I never tried them myself. Perhaps they were a cross over number and have changed since then?  Anyone else have any comments?
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: Corsairdeluxe on March 12, 2016, 11:23:11 PM
I have the original monroe 1001 le for $60 a pair including shipping. Guaranteed satisfaction or return.
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on March 13, 2016, 08:05:22 PM
I am going to assemble the front  A arms tomorrow and I'll see if they will work -- it's going to be close
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on March 13, 2016, 09:46:57 PM
I need a new fuel tank sending unit -- I am changing to a 12 volt system -- will the old type work on 12 volts or do I need a different one ? I have seen a new one on E Bay for 79.00 but it says 6 volt -

  Thanks for all replies

 Also -is there a pickup tube of some sort that installs in the fuel tank ?? I presently have nothing in the tank ?
Title: Re: New member with 52 Allstate restoration starting now
Post by: mark leigh on March 14, 2016, 01:51:50 PM
I am looking at the drive shaft-- the boots are cracked loose on both ends but the joint itself feels tight --- ??