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tedjan1

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temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« on: November 18, 2021, 01:13:21 PM »
Hello group,I bought this gem with an inoperative temp gauge and according to the electrical diagram,there should be a sending unit,I would assume attached to the engine but mine does not have one.Can someone please advise to where it should be and hopefully where I can purchase one.
   I appreciate your kind consideration on this problem.

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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2021, 07:08:08 PM »
The sending unit is located on the left rear corner of the head . It threads into the head .

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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2021, 12:56:41 PM »
I thought he was looking for the coolant temp sending unit and not the oil pressure sending unit.

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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2021, 01:46:53 PM »
It does not Hurt to check connection & Clean Corrosion on Senders ....
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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2021, 01:55:09 PM »
The temperature sender for your car is indeed screwed into the head.  Same for 51-53K and 54 Early Special (photo attached).

I believe it can still be purchased at NAPA but unfortunately I was unable to find the part number; hopefully someone of the Forum will have it.   ;) 
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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2021, 08:33:43 PM »

The temp gauge sending unit on a '53 Kaiser is on the rear of the cylinder head on the driver side, right behind the coil. See pic  (circled in red with arrow pointing toward it.)
For the '51 - '54 Kaiser Early Special it is KF part number 207417 which is NAPA  ECH TS6464   
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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2021, 12:07:03 AM »
Fid , a Picture is worth 1000 words. Great Job.
Also A Great Picture of the Positive Ground strap.
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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2021, 02:55:36 AM »
I was in a hurry this morning and got confused; I was going after the oil pressure unit rather than the water temp unit.    Please note that the 1953 WATER TEMP. system was re-calibrated so the scale went up to 240 degrees F. rather than the 220 or so used in 1951 and 1952. 

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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2021, 12:31:20 PM »
Indeed it is in the head adjacent to the coil.Don't know how I missed it.Thank you all!  Ted

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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2021, 08:27:04 PM »
The following is from page 12 of the 1952-1953 Kaiser supplement to the 1951 Kaiser and Frazer Shop Manual:

It is very important that the old gauge (white markings only) and the old engine unit (not marked 240) always be used together.  The New Gage (red and white markings and the new engine unit (marked 240) must likewise be used together.  If the gauges and engine units are interchanged, the indicated temperature will be considerably inaccurate, making it possible to damage the engine through loss of coolant without proper warning by the temperature gauge


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Re: temp guage-1953 Manhattan
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2021, 12:29:00 PM »
Good info Jack.  I thought I had heard that the '53 used a different sending unit.  The parts book supplement that I consulted did not make that clear.  Based on the info you provided, the '52 also uses a different one.
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