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53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« on: January 24, 2012, 02:01:23 PM »
Here are the numbers -  BODY-4,  MODEL-522, PAINT-140, TRIM-5400,  I.P.-32,  //////  Engine S/N 2141852,  Mod 6L226-K  . 
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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 02:04:05 PM »
I'm not near any of my documentation for all the numbers but I do know a model 522 would a be a 1952 as opposed to 1953. They look similar so it would be easy for someone to think a '52 was a '53. More later when I can get to my info.
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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 05:22:27 PM »
Paint 140 = Onyx
Trim 5400 = Persian gray luxura and black bambu vinyl
IP 32 = Persian gray metallic (interior paint)

And, as Fid mentioned, 522 would denote a 1952 model car. What's the body and/or serial number start with? Armed with those numbers, we can tell you what it should be.

nice color combination, by the way! Not too many black cars were produced and it's nice to see that another has turned up.

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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 05:34:16 PM »
A 522-4 would be a 52 Manhattan 2 door sedan; a 52 Manhattan 2 door Club Coupe would be a 522-7.  There were Club Coupes in 51, 52 (Virginian) and 'real' 1952. If it is a 52 Virginian, it would be a Deluxe instead of a Manhattan, as Frazer in 51 was still using Manhattan

The rest of the numbers are interesting.  140 paint would be black (onyx) and I think in a single colour--not a two-tone car--, and I don't know what trim 5400 is as I don't have my Handbook at hand (paper or electronic), but it seems it is a *1953* combination, not a 52 Virginian (reserialized 51 models with the small taillights) or late 52 (big taillights). The trim codes are 2xxx for 1952, and there are 1953 cars on the registry sporting 140 5400 codes, including one 5324 53 Manhattan 2 door sedan. Not sure what interior paint 32 is either. So, possibly a 53--or a 52 with a 53 plate affixed??

You can simply tell a 52 from a 53, as the trunk hinges on a 52 are still chrome and external, whereas on a 53 they are hidden inside. There are several other obvious visual differences, trunk lock, rear fender trim, headlight rings, dash etc but that is the one most unlikely to have been changed over the years, I think.

This could possibly be a 52 Manhattan Club Coupe in real life but the numbers don't seem to match what it should be.

EDIT--that is a lovely colour combination, black and persian gray

Engine serial number is not the same as a serial number, and that number starting 214..... is too high to be the car serial number  6L226-K is just a reference to it being a Kaiser 226 CID flathead six, I think

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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 05:46:59 PM »
http://circlekf.com/kflit/HB/k5224l.pdf

That Trim Code 5400 does not show up in the 5224 Model of the Handbook but it does show up on the 53 and 54 models

5324   5400   Persian Gray Luxura & Bambu Vinyl trim
5454   5400   Persian Gray Luxura and Black Pincrush Vinyl
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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 08:23:41 PM »
I'll "try" to add photos.

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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 08:33:43 PM »
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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 08:35:59 PM »
Data plate.   Motor and trans rebuilt. Front seat reupholstered, not exact but seat was redone (cushions) and owner got a "very close" match.
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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 09:20:44 PM »
That data plate reads 532-4 I do believe.
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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 10:10:13 PM »
The hood ornament, rear fender trim, lack of outside trunk hinges and black horn button certainly indicate that it's a '53. I agree, the model number on the data plate appears to be 532 - the rivet obscures the 3 but that's what it looks like to me. The best way to tell is look at the serial number which is on a tag between the hinges on the driver's door.
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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 12:07:34 AM »
The Body Number in the photo under the Data Plate also shows the 532.
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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2012, 06:08:01 AM »
Based on info on the body plates, it appears that the body may have been built during November of 1952; If I had a serial number I might better peg final assembly time frame

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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2012, 09:25:35 AM »
Beautiful car--what's the story with it?  Is it for sale?

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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 01:28:12 PM »
it is #31 on the registry list, but the information is incomplete.
31  K532-014439   5324-2507    140 5400                      Johnson     TN
K432-014439 is the serial number....its missing DR 1 TR 7 AG  ??32???   SCH 79 I TEM  185 from the listing
You should scoot an email over to Harold Hagen to have the registry updated.
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Re: 53 Club Sedan, please run numbers
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012, 01:40:20 PM »
Its a lovely car, and appears to about driver condition. With some elbow grease and polishing compound on the windows, taillights and paint, and some thorough cleaning with a toothbrush, it might look quite nice (for a start)
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