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Unusual color
« on: January 21, 2014, 10:54:59 AM »
It is listed as having been repainted original "latrine green". Is this a joke?

http://www.autotraderclassics.com/classic-car/1951-Henry+J-Standard-1361108.xhtml
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2014, 12:26:23 PM »
Notice the engine. I wonder if it came from an ALLSTATE.
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2014, 01:32:58 PM »
This is interesting. No trunk,no glove box, bent tubing column support and 6 cyl. This was the configuration of the first 51's built.It's owned by a salesman at a used car dealer who has had it a short period of time and says he does not know much about it.That usually means he knows but does not want to answer.
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 01:37:46 PM »
Fid ,,, Notice the brace from the engine head to the air cleaner. That's new to me.
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2014, 05:19:27 PM »
Does front bumper look right?
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2014, 07:46:09 PM »
Not a bad looking car!  I'm sure that he is joking about the color!
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2014, 08:48:23 PM »
It looks like a fair attempt to duplicate Aloha Green.  Had the info off the body tag near the driver side hood hinge area been given (or pictured) we would know for sure on original color.  Also, we would know if the car is a "Standard" as the seller calls it (the K513 4 cylinder) or if it is a K514 and should have a 6 under the hood.

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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2014, 09:29:30 PM »
That car was on ebay a couple of years ago. Remember the seller touted it as original "sportsman green."  I know it sold but apparently not to a club member. That air cleaner brace is like the one used on the '47/'48 Kaisers and Frazers. Maybe the early ones had that???  I don't remember seeing it listed anywhere but who knows?
Dave, the front bumper looks right to me. The '51 Js have a flatter front bumper than the '52-'54s (except of course the '52 Vagabond).
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2014, 12:15:43 PM »
That is a very early 51. Notice the bent tubing column support and the fixed not opening vent window.Throw in the no trunk and no glove compartment and it is most unusual.
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2014, 01:20:47 PM »
 Here is the data located on the left hinge pillar K-514-003625
The numbers of the plate of the left side of the firewall read like this
 
       body  paint   trim



514    4     355    4404-2

Is paint #355 Aloha green?

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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2014, 07:02:31 PM »
Pretty cool indeed. It also has the extension on the handbrake lever if I remember correctly which only the earliest Js  had.  No '51 J or '52 J Vagabond ever had glove box originally. Glove boxes weren't introduced till the '52 Corsairs (KF Service Bulletin 323 touts the new feature) and they were standard on all Js once they were introduced.

Paint code 355 is Ceramic green making the color match even closer in my opinion.  I thought I read (but can't find now) the first 5000 Js were Aloha green. The open steering column was only featured on the first 6400 (KF factory bulletin says change took place at 514-007463) so this one is rare in that regard - open column and not Aloha green. Pretty cool.
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2014, 08:45:07 PM »
I'm sorry, but the seller says it's in "original condition" in the opening sentence.  Then says the seats have been recovered, the engine rebuilt, and the car repainted.  Not saying, just sayin...  8)
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2014, 09:57:25 PM »
Old thread but someone sent me this link again so I thought I'd go back and revisit.  It looks like it's still for sale. Jim Brown, I noticed something this time that we didn't point out last time -  look how flat and far back that floating grill is -that's not right. I wonder why it sits so far back in the middle?
Still not a bad example but I'd like to examine that floating grill to see what's up with it.
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2014, 10:14:41 PM »
Did you notice the placement of the heater shutoff valve?
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Re: Unusual color
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2014, 10:34:56 PM »
No, I didn't catch that. Interesting - it's up front on the water pump. In other words, careful if you're going to open it when the engine is running! That fan could do some damage to your knuckles. I wonder how it works? Probably just fine.
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