Kaiser Frazer pickups

[frankies frazer]

Oh my!
You have got to be kidding
As I told you before I have documentation the truck was made early as a new car!!!

[joefrazer]

About the club, when your membership app is processed, you will receive in the mail a calendar, Quarterly magazine , and a handbook on CD. Packages are sent once a month, usually within a week after the 15th.

About your 47 Frazer pickup. I'm not typically one to chime in with a strong opinion...I'd rather play middle of the road due to my position within the club...but at this time I have to agree with the others. You have a rare machine that was assembled by someone other than Kaiser-Frazer. It could have been a dealer, or it could have been a body shop talented in this kind of work, but it was not done at the factory, or with the factory's blessing.

I've seen a few of this sort of "truck" and some are better assembled than others. From the pictures I've seen of your pickup, it's one of the better ones. But that again, does not mean Muntz or anyone under his sphere of influence put it together.

So, once and for all, please provide concrete documentation of this vehicle's assembly as a pickup or let's all put this topic to rest and enjoy it for what it is - a rare and unusual vehicle that was once, and is again, someone's pride and joy.

I encourage you to get the vehicle roadworthy and bring it to a KF meet. I guarantee you'll be the center of attention.

[powell56]

The Posie truck before it was modified

[r1lark]

It looks like the Kaiser pickup in the pictures posted by powell56 uses a 1957 Ford pickup bed. Is this the pickup bed it has always had?

Here is a pic of a '57 Ford:

[VintageTrucks]

I've been reading and researching other articles about these trucks and I happened upon this post. This is indeed very interesting (and heated) and seems to me that there is something to this.  I am quite a hard sale on most things and especially on this subject, but with all the recent as well as past discussions about these trucks, there may be some merit here but would have to see documentation whatever it may be, including the anecdotes given by the man that owns the truck in question. I am very interested in this truck and it's history.

Would it be for sale? If so, is there a way to contact you so that I may inspect the truck and it's documentation?

Kind regards, 

Francois

[frankies frazer]

Great minds think alike!
I will send you a private message. Thanks for your interest!

[frankies frazer]

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« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2015, 03:43:02 AM »
There have been isolated cases of surviving vehicles (not just K-F or Jeep product) titled in a year other than the model year of the vehicle.  I have never dug into the matter but there appears to have been laws on the books of a few states (one of them Washington State?) where a new, untitled vehicle (with the Certificate of Origin of a New Vehicle from the factory) was first titled the year the car was sold new.  With the advent of the new VIN number system decades ago, that practice had to end and it did.

The original California title for this truck says that it is a 1950 Frazer pickup but we all know by its look that it is a 1947 Sedan and not a 1950 pickup. This is very interesting!
I am going to post a picture of its data plate and its firewall. The truck was repainted after the conversion to claypipe gray. You can clearly see the claypipe gray overspray on the data plate. You can also see the original color under the plate. Now for the kicker! On the firewall there is a rusted scratching that clearly says "aligned 11/3/47.
I will post picture when I get back to my computer next Wednesday.
I never noticed this before and the man (Francois) that has been looking  at the truck pointed this out to me.  This puts the build or conversion in 1947! This is just another reason I believe the truck was built in 1947,

[Aeroman]

The Posie truck before it was modified

This is the truck that I was talking about in an earlier post. The late John Parker had remembered welding underneath it when it was still a car. It was owned by the late Jim Davies and resided in Georgia for many years.

[frankies frazer]

As promised
The first photo is of my firewall data plate. You can clearly see that the original color (gunmetal gray) behind plate and that the plate and firewall was painted claypipe gray. This was done after it was modified into a pickup.
The second photo is the firewall that has been painted the claypipe gray and you can clearly see it was scratched into the paint (rust and all) and says "ALIGN 11-24-47"
also remember this is a very early Manhattan
There is no doubt this truck was made as a new sedan!!

[frankies frazer]

Opps!
Here's the pics

[frankies frazer]

Funny thing
ALIGNED is misspelled ALINED
lol

[frankies frazer]

The first photo is of my firewall data plate. You can clearly see that the original color (gunmetal gray) behind plate and that the plate and firewall was painted claypipe gray. This was done after it was modified into a pickup.
The second photo is the firewall that has been painted the claypipe gray and you can clearly see it was scratched into the paint (rust and all) and says "ALIGNED 11-24-47"

[frankies frazer]

1947 Frazer Manhattan Promotional Pickup Truck

[frankies frazer]

Thanks Jake, but I have all four  original rims.
I probably won't do anything to the finish not even clear. I want to leave it in its found condition.
I found the Betts Curtis ID tag that shows they made these trucks. I will post a pic. I also found a great article from the California Library system on microfilm!!!!

[frankies frazer]

Real Cool!
Thanks Jake
The picture of the truck looks like the the blue one that was posted earlier.