Thanks Mike, I actually received my newletter today, and noticed it. I will be purchasing a copy this week. thanks again to everyone for the help. When I pulled the drum off to replace the wheelcylinder it was the only thing I needed to do, then when I put the drum back on, it seemed to go abit to closed and the rivits on the drum were scaping when I tighted the drum nut. Guess the seal was old and needed replaced. The brake job is becoming more and more work each time. After replacing the rear shoes and wheel cylinders, I tried to bleed the brakes, but the line is blocked somewhere, the old wheel cylinders were froozen badly. I bought new lines for the rear today.