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Re: Willys 161 flywheel
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2018, 01:48:23 PM »
Just for everyone's review, since things do get lost in the course of scrolling throught two pages of posts; on October 18 MarkH posted:


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The Aero parts book states part number 802925 for 4cyl, L & F-head 6cyl engines, 129 teeth.

This is consistent with the flywheel I posted for the Delco equipped cars.
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Re: Willys 161 flywheel
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2018, 08:49:49 PM »
Well, here's a bit more to chew on.

The ’46 to ’56 Hollander lists different numbers for the Henry J  &  Willys passenger car……….. but lists 2 flywheel numbers for the Henry J Delco equipped, and Henry J AutoLite equipped.

The ’54 to ’66 edition lists the same interchange number for Henry J & Willys passenger cars except for the Willys with 226 cu.in engine.

Which brings to mind a question I've been wondering about. If the ring gear mounts at the same depth on the flywheel rim for both cars, would the relatively small starter gear even “notice” the .04 percent difference between a 129 tooth ring gear and a 124 tooth gear?

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Re: Willys 161 flywheel
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2018, 09:52:09 PM »
Here's the one from my '52 Henry J Vagabond when I had it out back in 2007. It's got 124 teeth and the car has an Autolite starter.  It's the same flywheel that's in it today.
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Re: Willys 161 flywheel
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2018, 11:20:38 PM »
Well, I finally got my flywheel issue worked out, no I still haven't found my original. I was able to purchase a flywheel and get it surfaced. I thought I had an Autolite starter so the 124 tooth gear was probably correct, It turns out I have a Delco and needed a 129 tooth gear, but since I wasn't sure I had already ordered the replacement, just in case. I did to a fit check of the starter and it was obvious that the gears were not going to mesh. I pulled the flywheel, heated and swapped the ring gears and everything looks great. I also learned that I do have a Delco starter.
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Re: Willys 161 flywheel
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2018, 09:01:46 AM »
Great news Warren!  There was a lot of good information conveyed in this thread.  Thanks to all who contributed!
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Re: Willys 161 flywheel
« Reply #35 on: December 16, 2018, 01:05:39 AM »
I wonder if we can get a "wiki" section, with separate grouping for each make and model with info like this as well as good sources for hard to find parts and services. For example, I was looking for a "good" source for fuel pump rebuild and carburetor rebuild. I was able to get good recommendations from people on the forum but I would be nice to have a place to collect this information in one place. Sad to say it would also be nice to include warnings about sources. 
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Re: Willys 161 flywheel
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2018, 06:16:52 PM »
Now that I purchased a new flywheel and changed the ring gear, bolted on the clutch and transmission and installed the assembly in my car, my old flywheel came out of hiding. Right about where I though it should have been and where I could swear I looked no less than 30 time. I now have a nice "spare" flywheel, that I most likely will never need. I am going to store in a someplace that is in plane site to remind myself to keep things where I can find them
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Re: Willys 161 flywheel
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2018, 09:52:56 PM »
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my old flywheel came out of hiding. Right about where I though it should have been and where I could swear I looked no less than 30 time

That's the way it often goes doesn't it?
 
At least your car will be back together and on the road again.

Look at the bright side, several of us now know a little more than we did when this thread was started.  It was a good topic and good discussion so your extra flywheel will not collect dust in vain!

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Re: Willys 161 flywheel
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2019, 01:39:04 PM »
Well, as Mark pointed out early on and I was too ignorant to understand. The 161 was equipped with either Autolite or Delco electronics, starter,generator, distributor and maybe voltage regulator. Although I am not sure the regulator was different. Depending on whether it was in a K-F car or a Willys and it sounds like even some differences by year, you will have all Delco or all Autolite. This also drives the flywheel ring gear tooth count and diameter. If you have an Autolite starter, the location of the starter is such that it will only mesh with the 124 tooth ring gear, a Delco starter will only mesh with 129 tooth ring gear. I think I got that the right way around.
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