😎 In search of a Carburetor

[Mac_Frazer]

Hi Folks, I'm back after 1.5 yr hiatus as on OTR truck driver.

So we dusted off the Frazer and tried to get it started, but it would rev up only idle.

So my guess is I need to put a rebuild kit in the carb, been sitting a long time.
So anyone know where I can find one.....got to get the number off the carb...and
start from there. Hope their readily available.  Steve

[joefrazer]

Kits for your carb are available on ebay. You'll need to know which version you have. There should be a brass tag on the unit with the model number. Match it to the right kit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor-Kit-1947-Kaiser-Frazer-w-Carter-W1-carb-NEW-/390630786068?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AKaiser&hash=item5af368c414&vxp=mtr

or

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor-Kit-1947-50-Kaiser-Frazer-w-1-bbl-carb-NEW-/251311036876?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a834e19cc&vxp=mtr

[kaiserfrazerlibrary]

Remember also that older kits have the older seals that today's E10 and E15 gasolines will eat up in short order.

[rguinn1947]

Bought a kit last summer from the Carburetor Doctor, www.carbkitsource.com.  Kit had latest space age seals etc.  Good service cost $70.00.

[alohagreen]

It would be nice SOMEDAY to see the 19 / 29 $ priced kit from a parts house.

[kaiserfrazerlibrary]

Don't count on it.  The new seals, gaskets, etc that are ethanol resistant are not that cheap to make due to material costs.   Because of the small volume (compared to regular everyday road type vehicles) old car stuff generates, except for perhaps Mustangs, 55-57 Chevy, 57 Ford, model A & T Fords along with some other cars having a super following the price will not come down.

[alohagreen]

will this work? 38 bucks
http://www.amazon.com/Omix-Ada-17705-07-Carburetor-Repair-Kit/dp/B000FQ7DR2

or  this 24 buck one ?
https://www.justjeeps.com/product.php?productid=37061&cat=8849&page=1

[joefrazer]

Steve...posting a bit from our correspondence here for all to benefit.

Some of the early 47 cars did come with a manually choked carburetor. They would have used a Carter 574S unit, which is the same as used on the 1946...and maybe 47...Chevrolet non-fleet light duty vehicles. Here's a link to an excellent web page detailing the 574S as well as other carburetors - http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/CarterChevroletW1.htm

The easiest way to tell if a car originally had a manually choked carb is to look for the presence of a dash knob with a "C" on it. It would attached to the lower row of dash knobs. Of course, over time it could have been removed...

Here's a link to a 47 F dash with a manual choke knob...it's the one on the far right. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/32479311_8db654eecc.jpg

I've seen another car with the choke knob mounted on the left side of the lower dash.

[Fid]

Thanks for the info Joe. I never saw a Frazer with a  manual choke, nor did I know they existed. Good info to be sure. My '48 standard had an automatic choke and it worked well.

[Mac_Frazer]

Hi Joe,

Got your email, and just read the post, yes mine does have the choke knob, that's why I've been trying to figure this out, why they would put
Auto choke on it without it being hooked up. Nice Dash !!!! on your pic.
I think my choke is the knob on the left, can't get at the car at the moment, its at another garage for storage. Can't move it till I resolve the
issue. 
My guess is they couldn't find another, and just put that on and adjusted the auto for the current
Weather condition (warm) and let it go.
I like manuals anyway, less to mess around with.

Steve

[kaiserfrazerlibrary]

The better carb for your car is the 622 series (622S, 622SA, 622SB) that was the regular carburetor for the 226 in both Kaiser and Frazer cars.   This has the Climatic Control assembly on it.   The 574S does not have the climate control thermostat assembly on it  and relies on the manual choke to regulate mixture during warm up & other functions.  Cars that were not factory equipped with the 574S  normally had a chrome plug in the control holder at the bottom of the dash.

If you have trouble getting parts or even a replacement where you are, remember KFOCI members can run Free Ads in the WANTED section of the KFOCI MONTHLY BULLETIN.  Check your bulletin for more info.

1947 Frazer Manhattans had the 100 bhp version of the 226; 1948 Frazer Manhattans could have either the 100 bhp version or the 110 bhp "Dual Manifold" 6.

[joefrazer]

OK, I found my Carter book and confirmed that a 574S carburetor would be correct for all 47 K and F that used a manual choke. Chevrolet passenger cars from 1941 thru 1949 used this same unit so locating another shouldn't be too difficult.

According to my book, Carter 483S, 515S, 569S, and 574S all used the same casting, number 421. The 483S and 574S can be interchanged according to Carter Form 4605W, however some connections differ slightly.

I've attached a picture of the Carter 574S service literature.

[Mac_Frazer]

Hi Jim, thanks for the confirmation, I just scored a Carter W1 574S carburetor on Ebay, and it has all the
connections I need for the cable as well, and looks in pretty decent shape.
So should have the Frazer up and running shortly.

NOS CARTER CARBURETOR MODEL 474S For Chevrolet 1941,42,43 to replace 483s,574s,
its actually a 574S, confirmed it was a typo on his part. Plus it has the 574S tag still attached.

So maybe the end of this thread finally, and I will have some new stuff to talk about......

OBTW;  Happy Thanksgiving to you and the KFOC members.

Caio,  Steve

[joefrazer]

Here's another 47F with a hand choke. I had not seen one in years, and now am aware of two!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Other-FRAZER-4DR-STANDARD-ORIGINAL-/301033932688?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4617054790&item=301033932688&pt=US_Cars_Trucks