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Bob L.

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trip, trophy, and rear axle
« on: May 10, 2016, 10:56:00 AM »
Drove the Manhattan over to the Deep South Region AACA show in Mobile last Sat.  Was longest "trip" with car...took  the big road (I-10) over and back... Very nice show, not a lot of cars, but some nice ones...really nice 56 Desoto convertible with Hemi and pushbutton...  Seems he didn't want to be judged, so sort of by default, I got best in post war, 46-59 class, and best of show post war... giant trophy for that one...

Came home, yet trip took over 2 hours due to wreck at Al-Fl border.  Sat over an hour, moving a few feet at time.  Got home and had grease over the wide white wall on right rear.

Sunday, took the wheel off, expecting to have to do wheel seals.  Found the source of grease was under the big nut where flange is held.   Nothing on shoes, so seal might be ok.  Took the nut off.  Found about half the threads on axle were missing or messed up.  Haven't pulled the flange/axle yet, so don't know dimensions, spline count, but want to find good part to go back. 

Looking at web/data, car is 3 spd od, assuming a 4.55 Dana 44 rear, so, expect all is "stock".  Need the right rear axle, big nut, possibly the flange and key (won't know on those til off).  Found several items for Jeeps, some 10 splines, some 19, length 21.5"...not sure if  they will work or not.  Also found an axle for 59 2wd Jeep wagon..think it's a bit longer.

Any ideas, leads, parts would be appreciated.

Attaching pictures of trophy...  Next year will  the 50th aniv. for that club...well worth a visit to their site...about 2 acres with club house, just north of a big park with the Mobile Muesum of Art and Botanical Gardens.  Of course Mobile has Bellingrath Gardens, the Battleship "Alabama", and much more to see...close to Gulf Shores, and Pensacola, Fl (home) with NAS Pensacola, Naval Air Museum, and white sand beaches... great stuff to see!

Any help on pieces, would be appreciated.

Bob L.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2016, 03:05:14 PM by Bob L. »

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Re: trip, trophy, and rear axle
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2016, 01:30:17 PM »
Very nice. We need to do more of this with our cars - get them out there. Frank Pudysz, here in the Atlanta area, has his '54 out regularly at all sorts of meets and shows and gets rave notices! Go to cruise nites, AACA car shows, local car shows, anything. People love to see Kaisers cuz they don't know what they are.
Rick Kamen
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Re: trip, trophy, and rear axle
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 05:13:29 PM »
Update:

Took a  tape out, and did a rough measurement.  The 21 1/2" jeep won't work, too short.  Appears to be closer to 28-29 inches.  The used '59, 2wd Jeep wagon axle I found measured 28 3/4" end to end, with 19 splines.  It might work, but believe axle nut is larger..so threads and taper might be off.  I measured my threads at just over .860 dia, so probably 7/8"...looked to be fine on pitch... guy with Jeep wagon axle said it was 15/16"....had a bigger nut: 1 7/16 vs 1 5/16 socket on mine.

So, still looking for right part.

Bob L.

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Re: trip, trophy, and rear axle
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2016, 01:12:42 PM »
Bob,
Are you a member of KFOCI? If not, I suggest you join and place a Wanted add in the monthly bulletin. There are many parts cars out there and someone will probably step forward.
Rick Kamen
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1964 Ford Econoline panel van
Once owned 11 other Willys Aeros and a Willys wagon, 2 Kaisers, 1 Henry J, plus Studebakers, Hudsons, a Nash and others.

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Re: trip, trophy, and rear axle
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2016, 10:31:35 AM »
The axle shaft needed for the 51-5 Dana 44 is 30 45/64" inches long with a 7/8 - 14 thread. I believe it in unique to KF so one will need sourced from a parts car if NOS can't be found.

The part number is 207237.

rialto

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Re: trip, trophy, and rear axle
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2016, 07:41:18 PM »
My 54 Hollander interchange says   Hollander #520 axle shaft fits  51 Frazer ,51-54 Kaiser full size.  10 spline and 30 3/4 inches overall length.  It doesn't show any other makes interchanging. 1955  Kaiser probably also fits but the book doesn't go that new.  Hope this helps.