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General Category => Kaiser Forum => Topic started by: Bob G on April 02, 2018, 04:44:54 PM

Title: Courtesy Lights
Post by: Bob G on April 02, 2018, 04:44:54 PM
Should the pillar mounted courtesy lights go on when a front door opens on my '54 Special. Pretty sure they should. Right now they only operate with the switch located on them.
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: dpledger on April 02, 2018, 09:30:30 PM
Are we talking 54 early or late special? The early were left over 53's, and on these it depends on the model that was converted.  For the Manhattans, which I think 54 early Specials were based on, only the rear doors operate the lights.  For '53 deluxes, all four doors operate them.  Had a 54 early once and it worked like a '53 Manhattan. Late specials probably did too, but not sure.
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: Randy K on April 03, 2018, 07:48:55 PM
If this is two-door, only the under-dash lights operate with the door. It's relatively simple to also ground the pillar lights to the door switches so they activate too.
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: Bob G on April 04, 2018, 04:50:40 PM
Car is an early '54 Special. Have not tried to see if the rear doors operate the subject lights. Will soon check and report back.
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: Bob G on April 05, 2018, 06:35:00 PM
Dpleger you are right. The rear doors operate the pillar mounted courtesy lights.
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: dpledger on April 05, 2018, 09:11:16 PM
The front doors should operate the two lights under the dash- do these work OK?
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: Bob G on April 08, 2018, 09:43:35 AM
For sure they work.
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: 51 Willowrun on April 24, 2021, 06:53:30 PM
Upon reading through the Forum I learned of the Pillar Light and Courtesy Light set up on my 51 Deluxe.4Dr Sedan
I checked under my dash and found the Bezels for the courtesy Lights but no lights,and no under dash switch.
Also upon checking my doors i discovered my rt rear door has a switch but my left rear door does not just the metal blank.
Since my Pillar Lights do not currently work I do not know if the switches in the front doors will turn on  the Pillar lights when either door is opened.
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: mbflemingkf on April 24, 2021, 07:12:03 PM
Did you get the wiring diagram I emailed you?  Didn't hear back.

Mike
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: mbflemingkf on April 26, 2021, 09:34:37 AM
There should be a toggle switch just under the dash by your left knee for the courtesy lights. Is there power at the light when door is open and switch is in the on position?  Bulbs ok?  Not sure if headlight needs to be on?
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: 51 Willowrun on May 06, 2021, 05:55:45 PM
Hello Mike,
Happy to say Pillar lights are working was just the bulbs were definitely toast.
Thanks for the diagram it allowed me to get a good look at the wiring..My Pillar lights Illuminate when either front door is opened and the Right rear door.There is no switch in my left rear door as in the wiring diagram.And there are definitely no Under dash courtesy Lights in my Car.
Thanks Again
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: blackcat429cj on July 26, 2021, 09:20:17 PM
Late specials probably did too, but not sure.

I owned a late Special for many years.  It only had 1 pillar light on the drivers pillar, no courtesy lights.  All four doors operated that one pillar light.
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: 51ksrluxe on September 19, 2021, 12:01:24 AM
mbflemingkf, May I trouble you also for the wiring diagram you emailed 51 Willowrun? In my 51 Kaiser Deluxe I have no under-dash front lights and no dome light between the sun visors. My headliner is out, so the dome light is just a place where it goes into the metal. Once I get the light housings, the wiring diagram will help me put things back together.
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: mbflemingkf on September 19, 2021, 08:54:45 AM
Send me your email address and I'll forward.

There is no dome light between the visors, only on the door post between the front and back seats.  Your car may only have on the passenger side.

Mike
mbfleming@aol.com
Title: Re: Courtesy Lights
Post by: 51ksrluxe on September 21, 2021, 12:21:37 AM
Thanks again Mike, I appreciate this. Going out to look around the Kaiser tomorrow. Hoping I only need to change some bulbs!