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General Category => Cars For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: Bulletin Editor on January 09, 2021, 04:52:44 PM

Title: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: Bulletin Editor on January 09, 2021, 04:52:44 PM
See attached flyer for Larry Smith estate sale

NOTE: I was just informed that the executor wants to sell all the parts as one "lot"
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: Kory Fox on January 09, 2021, 07:54:42 PM
Anyone else having trouble getting it to open?
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: flamingchariots on January 09, 2021, 11:16:42 PM
I can't view it unless I "download" it to my computer. 
I am unwilling to do that. 
I know there is a way to "view" only, but I think it's the way the poster "attaches" the file.
I'm just not sure.
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: Bulletin Editor on January 10, 2021, 12:40:48 AM
Sorry. The problem is it was sent to me as a PDF which I can't edit/change ... only photos can be seen online without being downloaded.
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: konrad on January 10, 2021, 08:49:12 PM
Per the ad, which I've downloaded...offered for sale are Larry's '53 2 door Kaiser Manhattan with Dragon Trim, and his '49 Kaiser Virginian.

Also for sale, all the parts he had in inventory as a single lot.

For more info on the cars or on the parts contact family representative:  Raymond Grove 563-508-7415
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: Bulletin Editor on January 12, 2021, 12:36:55 PM
Here's a link to the online ad for the 49 Virginian: https://www.autoroundup.com/vehicle/listingdisplay.aspx?lid=170024

An offer has been made for the 2dr Manhattan dressed as a Dragon. 
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: Bulletin Editor on January 14, 2021, 12:26:07 PM
An offer has been made for the 2dr Manhattan dressed as a Dragon. 

SOLD
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: konrad on January 14, 2021, 05:33:37 PM

SOLD

Not surprised.  While it was effectively a restomod, it was a beautiful example of a restomod, built to still be as period correct as it could be, apart from some embellishments in the engine compartment...
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: Bulletin Editor on January 24, 2021, 03:35:29 PM
UPDATE: the parts inventory has been SOLD. All that remains is the 1949 Virginian.
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: Kory Fox on January 24, 2021, 09:26:09 PM
Are the parts going to be available for sale by the new owner at some point?
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on January 25, 2021, 11:35:13 AM
since the buyer of the parts is not known, no way to tell what will happen to them.
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: konrad on January 25, 2021, 02:25:46 PM
Er...I would have to say...what is the point of buying a multitude of parts for an orphaned car company, if you are not going to offer them for sale?

Unless you're just an economic masochist who desires to lay out a bunch of money and gain nothing in return?

Either that, or someone's going to revive KF and they need those parts as models to reproduce for new Dragons, Manhattans, Deluxes, etc.  :D
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: custom on January 25, 2021, 05:16:27 PM
I looked at the parts from Larry's estate. The amount of parts was overwhelming. Huge amount of NOS items from all years and tons of used. I don't think Larry threw anything away. Most of it tucked away in the basement of his old house. There was a completely assembled "supersonic" engine in the basement also. Multiple steering wheels, hubcaps everywhere, windshields, hood ornaments, 2 sets of 49/50 fender skirts, etc. Worth the asking price but the amount of time involved to load, sort, and inventory was more than I could spare. If I were retired, those parts would have been in my basement.
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: custom on January 25, 2021, 05:21:03 PM
Larry's parts
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: custom on January 25, 2021, 05:25:09 PM
just a sample of the volume of Larry's parts
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: pnw_oldmags on January 25, 2021, 09:00:50 PM
I heard Larry's Parts have been sold.  Do we know who picked them up???
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on January 27, 2021, 01:27:10 PM
Nobody knows at this time who bought the inventory. 
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: custom on January 27, 2021, 03:22:17 PM
I was told by the gentlemen handling the sale that one of Larry's local friends purchased the parts and hopes to have them available by April or May. 
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: JoeKeys2010 on February 04, 2021, 10:02:20 AM
This is a beautiful Virginian but the sticker price seems high to me.  One here locally wont sell at 15K and it has power windows.
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: konrad on February 04, 2021, 11:59:35 AM
This is a beautiful Virginian but the sticker price seems high to me.  One here locally wont sell at 15K and it has power windows.

Was that ever an option on Kaisers (power windows) or an aftermarket add on?
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on February 04, 2021, 12:55:02 PM
Power Windows were offered during the 1949-1950 model run on Kaiser Virginians (trico vacuum), 1949-50 Kaiser Convertibles (Dura hydraulic) and 1951 Frazer Manhattan Hardtops and Convertib les (Trico on hardtops, Dura on convertibles).  While the initial order guide Confidential Bulletin for 1949 model year car s showed power windows may have been available for Frazer Manhattan 4-door sedans as an extra cost option , none have surfaced and factory documents suggest it was only limited to Frazer convertibles. 

Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: konrad on February 04, 2021, 01:26:51 PM
Thank you sir!

I was just surprised that power windows might even have been an option at that early date...for some reason I think of it as a 60s thing...
Title: Re: Sale of Larry Smith Estate
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on February 04, 2021, 09:15:23 PM
The power windows of the late 1940's and 1950's were mostly non-electric.  They rely on either manifold vacuum or a hydraulic pump to function and are prone to problems right from the start.   Dale Hammon and his son Steve down in Beloit WI worked on one or two of them over the years.  You can get more details on what they had t o cop with from therm.