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Title: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: kaiserkid on October 31, 2010, 08:05:07 PM
Has anyone got material for their 1954 Manhattan dash pad from SMS? I'm trying and it has been 3 months now with no samples. They said they will be sending samples very soon. Are they really that slow?   
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: kaiserkid on November 03, 2010, 06:51:40 PM
Finally recieved a sample. Great match! Now all I have to do is wait again for the material. Maybe I'll be able to drive the 54 in the Spring.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: cplne on November 30, 2010, 03:22:10 PM
Did you use the bamboo vinyl on the dash and seat backs?

Thx
Mark
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: kaiserkid on November 30, 2010, 09:13:22 PM
My 54 has a gray vinyl material on the dash. I don't know the name of the material but when I find out I will post it here. It still has not been installed yet. The upholster will be coming to my house Thursday night, what a great guy to make house calls, to install the dash pad. Now that the snow has arrived here I won't be able to drive the car to its intended storage location about 15 miles away. My daily driver will need to sit in the driveway. Now I will need to work on the body when my body says "let's build something together."
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: AZ_HJ on November 30, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Kaiser Kid,

Did you ever get this tape to go alone the top edge of the dash? I like to know it worked out for you if you did.


My orginal post was:

I think that is actually tape. It is a turn silver foil tape. You can get something quite close from the web address below. You need to buy 2" wide as you will fold some of the tape over the back edge of the dash. Also it is a little over 1" wide area showing.

http://www.tapebrothers.com/Tape-Brothers-Small-Engine-Turn-Silver-2-x10-yards-p/tt812sets2x10.htm


Best regards,

Mark

Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: kaiserkid on December 02, 2010, 08:27:47 PM
Mark,

I did get the tape, and it does have the engine turn look. I have no idea if that is correct or not but it does look great. With the roll that I bought I will be able to do at least 6 more cars! I still haven't had the upholsterer put the dash pad on yet. Now he said tomorrow. One thing I do know is that tomorrow never arrives. I have seen the material and it does look fine. It seems that the color is a little darker gray than the original but I really don't know what it should look like. The texture is very close to the original so I will stay with it. 
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: kaiserkid on January 01, 2011, 01:18:11 PM
I finally have the material and my upholster has done the sewing. He made two pads and they look and fit great! Anybody interested in purchasing a gray original looking dash pad? I don't know the final cost yet but I will divide my cost in half if you're interested. This is for my 54 Manhattan which is Blue Comet Metallic exterior and blue and gray interior. Very slowly I will be restoring the interior back to stock. If you are restoring your 54 with the same colors maybe we can combine and get the cost down? The material is from SMS.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: pnw_oldmags on January 19, 2011, 02:42:12 PM
My redone 53K interior looks great with the new SMS Material.
When removing the inside window surrounds from the door and the quarter panel windows I notice they are a cast metal.

Does anyone know what material they are made out off??  Very light yet very tough.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: dusty on January 20, 2011, 07:55:07 PM
Window surround--Unlike the hood ornament made of zinc and the distributor the same material , the window durround was made of aluminum and supplied by Kaiser aluminum. as a side note Kaiser aluminum still makes castings
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: pnw_oldmags on January 20, 2011, 11:59:02 PM
Thought folks would like to see some SMS Material sewn up.
(http://circlekf.com/images/IMG_8004s.jpg)
(http://circlekf.com/images/IMG_7815s.jpg)
(http://circlekf.com/images/IMG_7939s.jpg)
(http://circlekf.com/images/IMG_7956s.jpg)
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: Barnum on January 21, 2011, 08:11:22 AM
Wow...looks wonderful !! hope you post more when it is finished
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: dusty on January 21, 2011, 10:30:55 PM
LOOKS GREAT, IM SURE GLAD YOU TOOK MY ADVICE AND STOPPED BY SMS ON THE WAY TO THE YREKA MEET, YOU WERE SO PROUD OF IT AND SHOWED IT TO THE ATTENDEES , A COUPLE OF THEM WANTED TO BUY IT AND YOUR ANSWER WAS ( NICELY") GO GET YOUR OWN AND YOU LOCKED IT UP. 
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: kaiserkid on January 22, 2011, 03:45:03 PM
Do you know if the 53 and 54 interior color material is the same? The headliner and the blue on the seat, looks the same.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: dusty on January 22, 2011, 07:15:30 PM
The color on the 53-54 didn't change except for DYE LOT DIFERENCES  the 53 Bambu straw color seem slightlly diferent due to the darker random stripe the Boucle is the same both years. I worked yery closely with Doug Pollack and his colorest that he brought over from Germany and helped to design the special tool from memory. to get the random stripe that we have today. to see the final product being used in everyones cars makes me feel younger than my 80 years. and to have ALL YEARS OF MATERIAL AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE INSTEAD OF VELOUR IS !!!!!!!!!!. 
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: Logan on January 22, 2011, 09:56:52 PM
Wow, fantastic!  It's great that it's actually getting EASIER to restore KF products in some ways than it used to be.  I will eventually be getting some of the black bamboo for the top of my 53 Dragon as well as the balck on white Laguna cloth, as mine had been replaced with white vinyl before I purchased the car.  Most of the bamboo in the interior is in great shape, except the material on the package shelf.  Future projects...
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: kaiserkid on January 23, 2011, 09:13:04 AM
Dusty,

Does SMS have the material on file? Are the color names Gray Boucle and Blue Lamar? I sent a couple of samples to them but they are not the best color quality.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: Fid on February 02, 2011, 01:35:47 PM
That really looks nice.  Great job.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: AZ_HJ on February 02, 2011, 02:12:20 PM
Can we see some pics of your dash after you have it all done?
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: pnw_oldmags on February 02, 2011, 04:28:17 PM
The Dash has been repadded.  I just don't have everything remounted on the dash yet!  Has not been above freezing in my garage.
(http://circlekf.com/images/53K/Dash01.jpg)
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: cplne on November 19, 2011, 02:11:10 PM
Nice, did you replace the bamboo vinyl on the dash with the windshield installed.  The Bamboo Vinyl sample that SMS sent me is bright white and am looking for the same color you have.  Did they re-dye the Bamboo to the straw color?  You have inspired me once again!

Mark
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: pnw_oldmags on November 19, 2011, 04:35:13 PM
Ask SMS for a sample of "Natural Bambu" or Tan.  This is exactly what I got from SMS. They must have sent you the Bleached Version.  The invoice says Tan Bamboo  e?9 I think it is e89.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: Orphanauto on November 19, 2011, 08:01:29 PM
Thans for that imput. I got a sample of the green boucle, and bright/bleached white, but I need a light tan. They sent me samples, but no price. How much per yard is the two types of material? My headliner, dash, door panels are original, and like new. The seats were redone because of a rip in the drivers area many years ago I would like to redo it in the reproduction material. Thanks for the info. great topic.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: pnw_oldmags on November 19, 2011, 09:14:55 PM
4-20-2010  Bambu was $85 a yard, Boucle was $79 a yard
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: pnw_oldmags on November 19, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
But you have to love the results.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: Jim B PEI on November 19, 2011, 09:23:34 PM
Lovely! Just so I'm clear on it, that is Boucle and Bamboo on the door, and Bamboo and ??Luxura?? on the seats?
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: pnw_oldmags on November 19, 2011, 11:29:03 PM
The Luxura is not exact but what I found to be close and used.  I like it.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: Jim B PEI on November 21, 2011, 02:18:05 PM
I'll ask again. Is that Boucle and Bamboo on the door, and Bamboo and ??Luxura?? on the seats?  I'm trying to find out what Luxura looks like....
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: pnw_oldmags on November 21, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
The Luxura is only on the Seat inserts.  It is softer and in a small diamond pattern.  My old 53K it had the appearance and feel of a nice bath towel.  Not Vinyl.
Title: Re: SMS and dash pad material
Post by: Jim B PEI on November 21, 2011, 05:00:26 PM
Thanks--I thought it was a cloth much like terrycloth (rather than a vinyl) so that picture of the inserts on the seats answers my question!