Kaiser Frazer Owners Club Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on July 10, 2012, 01:05:49 PM
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Reading most of the postings made by new people, it seems to me that they have no idea what support manuals, etc they should have in their posession. The following items are, in my opinion, MUSTS to assist in restoration of cars, identifying what parts they may need (most K-F vendors go by number rather than "the left handed such and such for my 1951 Whatzit") and routine maintenance of their vehicles (what needs attention and how often):
The FACTORY shop manual covering your particular car. Best manual for a Henry J or Allstate is the 1951-52-53 HJ book, best for a 1947-48 Kaiser or frazer is the blue cover 1947-48-49 (which also works for 1950 model year cars) manual. 1952 and 1953 Kaisers require the 1951 Kaiser and Frazer manual plus the 1953 issued supplement for the later cars. 1954-55 Kaisers do not have a manual as such...you use the 1952-53 model year manuals with the various service bulletins issued by Kaiser-Willys Sales Corporation, and the 1954 issue Supercharger manual. Power steering equipped cars need the Power Steering manual. Willys products use the Mechanics Manuals and Body Manuals for their appropriate year/model vehicle.
The FACTORY parts book is also a must. Go with the Illustrated versions whenever you can (1954-55 Kaiser is not illustrated) There are supplements to the 1951 model year parts book to cover 1952 Virginian, 1952 second series and 1953 model year Kaisers, as well as supplements for 1952 Vagabond, 1952 Corsair and 1953 Corsair HJ's. 1954 HJ's use the materials that would apply to the 1953 models.
Who wants to add to this????
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Willys Aero manuals (from the Willys Aero Survival Count website listed below my name):
Mechanics Manual:
Models 685, 675; copyright 1952
Mechanics Manual:
Models 685, 675, 6-226; copyright 1955
Preliminary Parts List:
Model 685 Super DeLuxe (Aero Comet) - Custom (Aero Ace); copyright 1951
Preliminary Parts List:
Model 675 2-door DeLuxe (Lark); copyright 1953
Parts List:
Model 685 Super DeLuxe (Aero Wing) - Custom (Aero Ace); copyright 1952
Willys Passenger Car Parts List 1952-1953:
Models 475A, 675, 675A, 685, 685A; copyright 1954
Supplement to Willys Passenger Car Parts List 1952-1953 - Parts Peculiar to 1954 Passenger Cars 475B, 675B, 685B, 6-226:
Issued September 1954
Supplement to 1952-1953 Willys Passenger Car Parts List - Parts Peculiar to 1954-1955 Passenger Cars 475B, 675B, 685B, 6-226, 475C, 685C, 6-226A:
Issued May 1955
Supplement to 1952-1953 Willys Passenger Car Parts List - Parts Peculiar to 1954-1955 Passenger Cars 475B, 675B, 685B, 6-226, 6-226A:
Issued May 1956, supersedes the Supplement issued May 1955
Hydra-Matic Drive Parts List: Willys 1953-54 Hydra-Matic Passenger Cars:
Issued September 1954
Hydra-Matic Drive Parts List: Willys 1953-1954-1955 Hydra-Matic
Passenger Cars:
Issued May 1955
Parts Price List:
All Models; Effective March 1, 1956
Passenger-Car Service Time Schedule:
KW 1952-1954; Flat Rate Manual; September 1954
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the various manuals tend to show up for sale at the parts/stuff for sale areas at many division level meets. Otherwise, why not run a WANTED ad in the KFOCI MONTHLY BULLETIN? It doesn't cost you anything if you are a member, and will reach the entire regular/life membership of this club.
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I will totally agree on this . I've worked with some of my friends who are in my local club to restore a '55 Ford, a 52 Olds 98, a 53 Pontiac and of course my Kaisers. I joined the KF club in '88 and when I started on the 53 manhattan, I knew I needed a parts and a shop manual. I talked to & bought them from Fred Walker and never regretted it. The Kaiser parts manual is the only factory manual that details every nut bolt and washer and is in most cases is illustrated. So if one is interested in correectness this is the only way to go. I've used the o/d wiring diagram and test procedures, from the kaiser manuals to troubleshoot any car with a Borg-Warner o/d. We even use the 51 Kaiser shop manual to disassemble and rebuild the manual transmission in his 55 Ford. I also tell every new member comming into our local club that the 1st thing he should do is join the major club of his margue. We've all been there but so have they. Keep up the good work Jack.
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I agree about using the parts manuals to find correct nuts, bolts, fasteners etc. When I installed the Continental kit on my '52 HJ Vagabond, I only had the parts which were removed from a car years ago. The guy I bought them from did not save/have all the fasteners. The parts list was invaluable at helping me ID what I need to get a true authentic look/install of that kit. Most fasteners were available at my local Ace Hardware.
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Is this the one I'd need for my k481---> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-1948-1949-KAISER-FRAZER-SERVICE-SHOP-MANUAL-48-49-/380364877070?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item588f836d0e&vxp=mtr? Also, how is that one different/better than this manual---> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-48-KAISER-FRAZER-SHOP-MANUAL-K100-101-481-482-F47-/110577844151?pt=Motors_Manuals_Literature&hash=item19bef3ffb7&vxp=mtr which I have?
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During 1948 and into 1949, the factory issued a number of good service bulletins covering parts changes and other things. These items came out after the green cover book came out, but the information made its way into the blue cover 1947-48-49 Factory Service manual. Some of the repair procedures listed are better explained in the later book than in the Green cover 1947-48 edition. That's why the blue cover version is recommended over the Green but there is still a lot of good info in the earlier book.
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I worked at the trade all my life starting by changing the engine in a Model A ford when I was 14 years old. The day I retired I was still buying manuals. Why people think they can restore something they have never seen before with no reference materials is beyond me. Good thread.
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I dont know if this is any help for those who are looking, but I found my manual at http://hagensautoparts.com/. I called in an ordered a manual, the owner is super nice and is very helpful!
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If you are unable to find certain service manuals or parts lists, take heart. KFOCI HANDBOOK Version 5.0 has the following original items scanned. If you cannot find the actual material, this should be a help and can be printed on your own computer if you want hard copy:
1. 1949 Issue Parts lists for the different types of wheel brakes used on Kaiser and Frazer cars in 1949-50.
2. Green cover 1952 HJ Vagabond Parts List Supplement to 1951 HJ book with exploded drawing of the Continental Tire Kit
3. Orange cover 1952 Kaiser Virginian Parts list Supplement to 1951 Kaiser book with exploded drawing of the Continental Tire Kit
4. Spring 1953 issue 1952-53 Henry J Parts List Supplement to 1951 Illustrated Parts List
5. Spring 1953 issue 1952-53 Kaiser Parts List Supplement to 1951 Illustrated Parts List
6. 1953 Kaiser Carolina Parts List Supplement; use with item #5 this list.
7. 1953 Kaiser Hydra-Matic Parts List Supplement to the 1951-52 H-D Parts List
Also to be included are;
A. 1954 Supercharger Manual
B. 1953-55 Kaiser Power Steering Manual
C. 1948 issue Wagner-Lockheed Brake Manual
Others may be added depending on feedback.
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My Dad was a dealer and I have some manuals that I would like to sale. Here they are Henry J 1951 model 513-514 advance service manual and parts price list. Hydra-Matic shop manual copyright 1950. Shop Manual 1947-1948-1949 Models K-100,101,481,491,492,F-47,485,486,495,496. Shop manual supplement 1953 & 1953 models K-521,K-522,K530,K531,K532. Hydra-Matic shop manual transmission models K-50,K-51,K-52. Shop manual for 1951 K-511,K-512,F-515,F516. Service time schedule 1951 models. Kaiser-Frazer uniform accounting manual. Parts and accessories Bulletins binder with combined chassis and body parts list for models K-100,K-101,K-481,K482,F-47,F47C,F-485,F-486 and 1951 combined chassis and body parts list for models K511,K512 and a small book Gasket sets and water pump repair kits 1948 and Hydra-matic parts list for 1951 and parts list for 1952 HenryJ models 523,524 and parts and accessories parts list effective nov. 1951 and a gasket set and repair kits for all models date april 1952. The condition of these books varies, all are well used.
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I would be interested in the Bulletin Binders and bulletins... Service, Advance, Confidential etal. Let me know your price and how to pay.
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I may have few pictures for you to add to the archives.. Maybe a few names to go along with this as well.. if your interested.. :)
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as noted on the club website, my email address is kaiserfrazerlibrary@yahoo.com.
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Has anyone scanned these manuals and if so could they be offered electronically on the website? I have a 1949 shop manual and scanned most of it to my ipad.
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Go here -> http://circlekf.com/
Jim's done a great job of scanning many of the parts books and literature we need to keep our cars running.
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Parts Manuals and Service Standards are online and one lonely Shop Manual - Henry J. After the 2014 National in Puyallup I will have time to get back on that little ;D scanning project.
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I am new to the KF world and have found this post to be one of the most informative on reference material that I have read so far. A shop manual came with my car, otherwise I would not know one existed and but for this post I would not have known many of the other reference material existed.
When I first bought my Kaiser I came to the KF club website looking for information. I did not see any manuals, parts lists or other reference material available on the site. Perhaps it might be helpful to add a link on the webpage entitled "information all KF owners should have" and include the list that is in this post. What would even be more helpful would be to have electronic versions of this material on the website or to have links that would take you to a spot where you could find a shop manual electronically.
For someone who has been around these cars for a long time all of this information in this post might be common knowledge but for us new comers its not. I have found the list of manuals in this post to be very informative. Some of them I did not know existed.
When I cant find info on the site or on the CD that was sent to me after I joined the KF club, the message boards are where I go to get information. Once on the message boards I try to search for the topic I am interested to find answers to questions and if I cant find the information there I post a question.
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Here's an interesting book that pre-dated Henry's Cars.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1943-WWII-EMPLOYEE-Handbook-RICHMOND-CA-SHIPYARD-Kaiser-Ephemera-AMAZING-/121800294426?hash=item1c5bdd001a:g:RucAAOxyP4dTcVOI
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Unusual but outside the general scope for what's covered here.
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Wow...I paid five bucks for my copy.
While perhaps not in scope of the cars, the book does offer insight into how Henry Kaiser saw business and manufacturing in general. I'm sure many would consider it a preamble to the whole Kaiser-Frazer experience.
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I would like to be able to see the listing of the cars that have been registered on this site. I know it exists, but have forgotten how to get there. Also, how do I add my cars to the list?
Help, anyone, please?
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Here you go...
eskimo.com/hhagen/reg/reg.htm
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The website will NOT work with Mozilla. However, it does work with Microsoft Internet Explorer. I thought that I was originally logged into the site as part of the KFOCI site. If not, who is responsible for the eskimo site, and how do I verify that it is safe?
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Please excuse me. Mozilla will work if the http is included. I still don't understand the relationship between Eskimo and KFOCI, though.
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The website belongs to one of our club members. He owns and maintains it.
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Is it possible to contact the website owner directly? I have a few questions and a phone call from or to him / her might be more effective than emailing, etc.
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Thanks, Jake,
Jerry
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I am not sure I'm doing this right. I want information on how to join the club and I'm looking for a headliner for my 48 Kaiser and also vinyl or rubber floor mats
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I want information on how to join the club
You can join online (credit card/PayPal) at www.kfclub.com - or send an email to me at bulletin@kfclub.com for the latest Monthly News Bulletin which also includes a membership application (mail in with check/money order).
I'm looking for a headliner for my 48 Kaiser and also vinyl or rubber floor mats
As a KFOCI member you can post a free WANTED ad in the monthly newsletter for the headliner, and you can purchase floor mats from our Manufacturing Fund.