Kaiser Frazer Owners Club Forum
General Category => Cars For Sale & Wanted => Topic started by: FRAZER47 on November 15, 2012, 11:45:29 AM
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Does anyone know anything about this car?
It has been posted several times and there seem to be no takers.
Thanks much
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Would need more specifics like the link. The marketplace is just not there right now for off-makes like KF. Even popular muscle cars and popular cars are down 25-40% from 2007-2008. So, sellers are generally looking to make money or break even and not lose money and so the asking prices are reflecting that position. The result is no sales or quietly they move for a deep lose.
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Agreed...OLD CARS PRICE GUIDE numbers are being re-written DOWNWARDS to reflect a more realistc market value. This comes from publshed statements from Angelo himself.
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The 55 Kaiser Manhattan from Oregon that was on Ebay a month ago got a bid of $18500 which did not meet reserve (gulp). Later it came back with an opening bid around $7500 and did not get a bid. The car was bought at farm auction in Oregon High Desert (for less than that opening) and has not been driven/run much in the 10 years prior. Nice car to restore and preserve but not $18,500.
My thoughts and memories.
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It's interesting because a '55 two door is extremely rare but not necessarily extremely valuable. Not always the case but the '55 is just a '54 with a slightly modified hood scoop so the value or interest lies in its rarity alone. Sometimes people who would pay high prices for these cars are as rare as the cars themselves. I find it interesting that a '55 often brings more $$ than a comparable '54 but yet a 1950 brings no more money than a comparable 1949 even though the 1950 is a rarer car. Of course, there is no difference between a 1949 and a 1950 save for the tags.
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1955 Kaisers could have a few things going for it that a 1950 Kaiser would not. First, the general history of the 1955 is that it's the last model year for the regular production Kaisers. Second, only a handfull of 1955 2-door models survive. In contrast, somewhere between 10,000 to 20,000 Kaiser and Frazer cars were re-tagged as 1950 model year cars. There were a few thousand or so (all makes and models) built during the "regulation" 1950 model year and most of these were Kaiser Special 4-door sedans or Travelers built to dealer or distributor order.
There are two ways to identify a 1950 that is retagged versus a legitimately built 1950 model year K-F prouct:
1. The serial number was not changed on the door post tag; only the prefix. We can identify how many cars were built prior to November 4, 1949. 1949's unsold at this point were re-tagged 1950 models. As the break-out I have is by make and model, we can work the figures to find out what month a car was built even if it is a Kaiser Traveler, Frazer Manhattan sedan, etc.
2. Body tag numbers on the re-taggs were normally unchanged. A 1950 door post tagged car with a 1949 model year body tag is also a leftover 1949 vs. a car built during the 1950 model year.