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General Category => Willys Forum => Topic started by: oldsmoguy on May 16, 2013, 06:42:56 PM

Title: willys identification
Post by: oldsmoguy on May 16, 2013, 06:42:56 PM

please help. i purchased a old military style jeep. not sure what year.  serial number. 8305 183801. kaiser of toledo. engine casting 807895. number above water pump A J 3564 [ i think] please help.

Title: Re: willys identification
Post by: joefrazer on May 16, 2013, 07:50:48 PM

Your serial number doesn't line up with the current list of known Willys or Kaiser models. Can you post a pic of the serial number tag? I can tell you that a casting number of 807XXX puts the engine at about 1953-55.

Title: Re: willys identification
Post by: oldsmoguy on May 16, 2013, 08:06:15 PM

yes. i can post a pic on friday. it is dark here. i am in north carolina. but i am certain that is what tag says.  8305   183801 . kaiser of toledo ,ohio it is on drivers side under hood.

Title: Re: willys identification
Post by: kaiserfrazerlibrary on May 17, 2013, 07:05:13 AM

The KFOCI HANDBOOK on CD has a section on Willys Identification that covers 1945-1960 or so model years.  The reason why the picture of the tag is needed is that the actual military version of the tag has different info than the civilian and most people here reference "civies" rather than military surplus.

Title: Re: willys identification
Post by: oldsmoguy on May 17, 2013, 09:32:25 PM

thanks, but there is nothing else on the plate. only the serial numbers and kaiser of toledo, ohio. not sure what to do. if i cant figure out how to get a title. or id it. guess i will have to sell as a parts jeep.

Title: Re: willys identification
Post by: kfnut on May 18, 2013, 09:57:15 AM

TRy calling WILLYS AMERICA at 707-632-5258 . I had the same problem and posted the info on the forum and JIm sent the info and informed me it was a 1956 . I didn't understand as i didn't have an education on the " JEEP " . HE was right and was confirmed by lots of research , looking at pictures in old Willys books and such . I was looking at the WILLYS AMERICA book and called about a part and gave them the info . A fellow told me he wrote the book on serial numbers and also confirmed the year .
 I thank the folks on the forum for their help . WE can't all be experts on every aspect of this hobby but within the club there are enough folks that have info  that most items are covered .

Title: Re: willys identification
Post by: Aeroman on May 18, 2013, 09:27:36 PM

As Henry Ford once said (and I paraphrase because I do not have the actual quote available), "I do not have know everything, only where to find the answers."

Title: Re: willys identification
Post by: oldsmoguy on May 18, 2013, 10:47:35 PM

thanks for all help. and just looking at my question. fred