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General Category => Willys Forum => Topic started by: MarkH on March 30, 2016, 08:32:39 PM

Title: Rear Axle Questions
Post by: MarkH on March 30, 2016, 08:32:39 PM
Two questions:

I can't seem to find the torque spec for the rear axle cover bolts in the manual. I have found generic data on the web for the axle, and for the bolt size but those two specs are considerably different. Anyone have this in some Aero data?

Also need a US supplier part number(s) for the flexable rear brake line that goes from the under body to the rear axle.
Title: Re: Rear Axle Questions
Post by: pnw_oldmags on March 30, 2016, 11:47:52 PM
Pages 34 and 35 of this manual have a bunch of chassis torques.
Have you looked in this manual for what you seek?
http://circlekf.com/sourceslide.php?pub=KW&typ=SS&nbr=090&pag=1
Title: Re: Rear Axle Questions
Post by: alohagreen on March 31, 2016, 02:07:00 AM
tork is relevant to the  size and type of bolt material.
there are many charts out there...
and a bit of COMMON sense...
 some people use silicone while others use permatex ( tomato / tamato )
like not to exceed  ... and don't forget them inch pounds .
opinions are like donkeys,  everybody thinks they  know best.
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Title: Re: Rear Axle Questions
Post by: rialto on March 31, 2016, 07:08:33 PM
The issue here is not what the bolts can take. Use a nut driver or quarter drive ratchet. Make it snug but don't warp the cover or cause the gasket to squeeze out. Use some permatex on the gasket not silicone.
Title: Re: Rear Axle Questions
Post by: MarkH on March 31, 2016, 07:44:33 PM
I'm seeing wildly different specs. Everything Dana I can find says 30ft lbs but highest Grade 8 5/16th fine thread spec says 27ft lbs of torque, standard in fine thread is 13lbs.
Add to that is the bolt heads are marked with a stylized "A" so I'm guessing standard grade. I've been through my manual a couple times and twice through the service standards posted above. It just seems odd that this torque spec is missing.

The new FelPro gasket is comparatively thick and has a double layered "crush zone" on half the width for sealing so torque is more of a concern compared to the old style paper thin gasket. FelPro tech support said no sealer needed but I put just  a skiff of silicone on both sides and am at 15lbs and seeing a touch of depression around the bolts.

Thanks for the links above, I'll be looking for a Service Standards booklet.

How about the rear flex line number?
Title: Re: Rear Axle Questions
Post by: pnw_oldmags on March 31, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
At Springfield, I will have copies of all the Service Standards booklets available.
Title: Re: Rear Axle Questions
Post by: MarkH on March 31, 2016, 10:01:00 PM
At Springfield, I will have copies of all the Service Standards booklets available.
Didn't know you had them or I would've got one from you. Shortly after i read your link I snagged one "Buy It Now" on ebay.