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General Category => Willys Forum => Topic started by: MarkH on May 15, 2016, 09:01:16 AM

Title: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on May 15, 2016, 09:01:16 AM
I've taken a lot of disassembly photos and usually take something after parts are cleaned up. Here's a couple of the emergency brake linkage that fastens to the crossmember after it was cleaned & plated yesterday.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: BigDave LM6174 on May 15, 2016, 12:35:06 PM
What did you use to clean this?  Looks great. 
I have a blast cabinet from Harbor Freight with the glass beads.  It is amazing for a small investment of $150 at Harbor Freight, you can buy the blast cabinet and the media.  Everything looks great once it is cleaned up.



Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on May 15, 2016, 03:45:34 PM
After scraping & a wire wheel, I used Evapo-Rust rust disolver in a large Harbor Freight tumbler then switched to walnut shell media for a couple days. HF doesn't sell the drums separate but the Eastwood does and it's the exact same machine. After that I zinc plated the pieces without a brightener additive since I'm going for a dull white finish.
I've been sorely tempted by one of those HF cabinets, especially since using the painters a couple times with results like you mention.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: Terry T on May 15, 2016, 06:20:16 PM
That appears to be a lot of work for an under-body component.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on May 15, 2016, 08:53:31 PM
The car is pretty much parted out into bins of bagged parts and I'm working my way through them while I wait for the body shell to come back from the painter. I sent photos to Duane Hayes when I finished the rear axle/suspension assembly and he teased me saying the car will probably be propped up at car shows with mirrors under it.

I laughed out loud when I read it but I don't forsee that happening, it's going to be used and driven. Might even feel like a new car if I'm lucky.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: Barnum on May 16, 2016, 07:00:45 AM
Not only will it feel like a new car......sure seems like it will be. Great work!
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: Aeroman on May 16, 2016, 01:04:34 PM
Mark has already cut a roof off a parts cars and welded it to his car. He has so much work in his car, he'll never recoup his expenses. Good thing it's the first car he ever owned and the sentimental value is worth all this. His will be the most perfect Aero ever built!
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on May 16, 2016, 10:58:45 PM
Mark has already cut a roof off a parts cars and welded it to his car. He has so much work in his car, he'll never recoup his expenses. Good thing it's the first car he ever owned and the sentimental value is worth all this. His will be the most perfect Aero ever built!
There's sheetmetal from my original car, a parts car I've had for 20 plus yrs, a 1/2 car I bought 3 yrs ago, a grill shell from another car Duane has, reproduced repair sections plus NOS rockers, hood, front fenders, trunk and front & rear splash panels. The drive train & hard parts are pretty much what I drove in the 70's.

The price of sentimentalism, holy crap, there's no reasonable explanation....... really. Much smarter to just buy the nicest Aero you could possibly find.

I do have 3 grandsons close to getting their licenses and they want to learn to drive a clutch. I'd really like to get it built so they can learn on the same car I did. Sometimes they help me work on it too.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: Carpenter on May 16, 2016, 11:24:18 PM
Heavy Duty Oven Cleaner works better than Ospho when stripping rust away...to bare metal.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: alohagreen on May 17, 2016, 12:12:52 AM
That appears to be a lot of work for an under-body component.

some of us are ocd obsessive genuine car nuts...lol... 8)



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Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: Henry's HenryJs on May 17, 2016, 08:11:03 AM
Good work there Mark. I had spent hours cleaning parts on my 57 wagon that no one will see, unless I run over them.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on May 17, 2016, 06:04:52 PM

some of us are ocd obsessive genuine car nuts...lol... 8)


I had spent hours cleaning parts on my 57 wagon that no one will see, unless I run over them.

Oh yeah, I hear both of you loud & clear. I haven't decided if it's therapy or OCD. I'm not at home home but will post a couple more photos when I get back.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on May 20, 2016, 08:02:20 PM
Before & after of the brakes when I went through the rear axle. Sent the shoes off for relining, same set I originally installed in the early 70's.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on October 28, 2016, 05:46:45 PM

Got the body shell back home, making a bit of progress..
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: Barnum on October 30, 2016, 07:42:52 PM
Wow.looks great!! Nice mods! What are you using for disc brakes ?
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on October 31, 2016, 04:35:06 PM
Wow.looks great!! Nice mods! What are you using for disc brakes ?

Brackets are from Scarebird Classic brakes
'98 to '02 Honda Accord 4cyl. rotors
'83 to '92 Chevy S-10 4WD calipers
'79 to '90 Buick Electra banjo bolts
Hoses by Brake Hoses Unlimited

Steering, spindle, hub, bearings & grease seal are all stock with the exception of turning down the hub rim 20 thousandths to fit into the rotor hat.
Also, the Aero studs were a few threads short of a full bite on the lugs due to the thicker rotor hat so I replaced them with slightly longer surplus L & R thread Willys M38 studs.

Everything fit together really well.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: Corsairdeluxe on October 31, 2016, 06:19:28 PM
Are these the brackets you used?

https://scarebird.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=95&product_id=55
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on October 31, 2016, 07:40:09 PM
Are these the brackets you used?

https://scarebird.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=95&product_id=55

No, it's an Aero specific bracket, I haven't seen it on his site yet.
I sent him a steering knuckle, steering arm, trunnions, spindle, hub, rim & hubcap to use for the mock-up to make sure there wouldn't be clearance issues. I know he can make them, he wanted the parts for potential future work so we worked out a trade.
Here's some photos of the brackets, and his original mock-up.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: Barnum on November 01, 2016, 02:04:55 AM
  What are you doing for a master cylinder ?
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: joefrazer on November 01, 2016, 05:28:24 PM
Just looking thru this post and the work looks great so far. One thing to note, the primary, or long shoe should always be installed forward on the car. The short shoe goes on the back and will have the emergency brake lever attached to it.
Title: Re: Before & After
Post by: MarkH on November 01, 2016, 07:30:26 PM
Just looking thru this post and the work looks great so far. One thing to note, the primary, or long shoe should always be installed forward on the car. The short shoe goes on the back and will have the emergency brake lever attached to it.

Thanks for pointing that out, good eye!

I didn't consult the manual until now, just went by my disassembly photos. This rights a decades long wrong since I put those shoes on in the early '70's. No doubt that pointer will improve my braking............ much appreciated! Still haven't installed the rear suspension assembly so it's an easier fix now.

  What are you doing for a master cylinder ?

I'm using an original type master cylinder. Mark at Scarebird had me measure the pedal arm length and master cylinder stroke length to calculate the mechanical advantage and he thinks I'll be ok.