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Kaiser Forum / Re: speedometer drive gear

« on: November 21, 2013, 08:08:21 PM »

Thanks again Fid. I have the 20 tooth gear and after looking at it the teeth do look quite worn. Having eliminated everything else I'm quite sure this is the problem. The gear is marked SW (Stewart Warner, I assume) 448288. I'll check Walcks. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
Bryan

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Kaiser Forum / Re: speedometer drive gear

« on: November 20, 2013, 09:58:24 PM »

Dropped the driveshaft, pulled the rear of the o.d. housing and the output shaft bearing. The speedo gear is keyed to the shaft with the same key that secures the o.d. governor drive gear to the shaft. The key does not extend the thickness of the speedo drive gear but it is enough to keep the gear keyed to the shaft despite about .070-.075" fore and aft movement of the gear on the shaft with the gear, bearing and housing all in place. I'm left with thinking that the drive gear was slippery enough with gear oil that I only thought I was spinning it on the shaft. And, the driven gear must be worn enough that it is not engaged properly with the drive gear. At this point the only thing I can think to do is try to find another gear for the cable and see if that solves the problem. Thanks again for the help and advice.
Bryan

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Kaiser Forum / Re: speedometer drive gear

« on: November 16, 2013, 09:22:46 PM »

Thanks for the replies gentlemen. I do have the shop manual. I just don't see in the manual whether or not I can pull the back housing off while the unit is in the car. The overdrive is working. I've pulled the cable out of the housing and it is good. the driven gear is good as well. It is securely fastened to the piece it attaches to. The end of the cable is square and the gear assembly definitely drives/spins the cable. I am certain that the cable housing end is seating completely in the trans/overdrive case. I can stick my finger into the case and easily spin the drive gear (yes, the one in your photo) on the output shaft. I don't have my manual here with me but I'm quite certain that it states that the speedo drive gear is keyed to the output shaft. Perhaps there were/are variations? It stands to reason (at least to me) that if I can spin the drive gear with my finger, the drag on the cable spinning in the housing is preventing the gear from turning with the output shaft.  I don't know if the trans was ever replaced but it does not appear to have been. There is enough crud caked to everything that if it ever was changed, it was long ago. The car is all original, solid and rust free with about 70,000 miles showing. With my newfound knowledge, thank you Fid, I'll yank the back of the overdrive and see what I find. Nothing is impossible to fix!
Bryan

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Kaiser Forum / speedometer drive gear

« on: November 14, 2013, 07:03:12 PM »

Hey everyone. I'm back to my on again off again help a friend '51 Kaiser sedan project. Thanks again to all who helped me get the overdrive working. Now it's on to the speedo. The problem is the drive gear is no longer keyed to the output shaft of the overdrive. The cable is good, driven gear is good and the speedo works when I spin the cable. When I stick a finger into the cable hole I can spin the gear on the shaft. Does anyone know if the gear can be accessed and replaced with the overdrive unit in the car by dropping the driveshaft and slipping the rear housing off the overdrive unit? I certainly appreciate any help or advice that anyone is able to provide. Thanks in advance.
Bryan

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Kaiser Forum / Re: overdrive relay

« on: June 19, 2013, 09:51:11 PM »

Thanks to everyone for your responses. I assumed the car was a Manhattan due to the body style. I'm quite ignorant on matters Kaiser but I'm learning quite a bit. I'm really a Model T Ford guy. Kaisers are a bit on the modern side but they sure are neat cars and I'm enjoying working on this one! I appreciate the advice on wire gauge. I figured on duplicating the harness with the same gauge that it currently has. It definitely needs the four prong relay as it still has the original harness with the four prong plug. I did acquire a newly manufactured Studebaker relay (you're right joefrazer, not inexpensive) but would prefer to use a stock relay. Thanks for your offer, Corsairdeluxe, I'll respond to you by email.

Bryan

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Kaiser Forum / overdrive relay

« on: June 18, 2013, 10:05:55 PM »

Good evening everyone. I'm new here and have a dilema. A friend has enlisted my help with his '51 Manhattan. It needs a lot of TLC not the least of which is that it's missing the overdrive relay and the relay harness is a disaster. I can make up a new harness but the relay is another matter. Is there  a source for a Kaiser relay that uses the plug connector? Do I need to keep an eye on Ebay, Hemmings, etc. for a used one that is good or rebuildable? Anyone out there have one they would be willing to part with? I would imagine I could use a Studebaker relay and make the harness sans plug. New ones are available for about $100 but I'd like to keep it stock and correct if possible. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
Bryan