antenna location - again & manifold question

[709karl]

Hey folks,  I asked about antenna location recently and the computer pooped out before completing the issue. Who knows the correct spot for a 49 deluxe antenna. Does anyone have this beast + the cable...priced fairly. More obscure now, a challange to you parts gerus,  who made the duel carb intakes for Kaisers? Edmunds?  Offenhauser?  anyone hoarding one away for a flower vase? or, an already split manifold? ...226 cu. in. They don't work well on a shelf.  Thanks,   Karl

[montefrazer]

Jack at kaiserfrazerlibrary@yahoo.com  had replied to your last post. He has a template for the hole. Send him an email. Finding an original K-F antenna will be hard and expensive if you do. I will be going with an aftermarket one when I get my Frazer back on the road.

[709karl]

Thanks,  I'll contact him.  K.

[FrazerWill]

709karl,
  I too am looking for one of those intakes.(and the head)from Edmunds. I've asked around and found a few that are being used, but none for sale with out taking out a loan for more then my car... I also heard they don't help with the HP much, but I remember John Parker had one on his 47 Kaiser and it hauled butt..burn outs and everything...Looked real cool, too. He did rebuild our motors so he knew how to hotrod them.

www.vintagespeed.com makes after market stuff (even the EDMUNDS CUSTOM stuff),but no intake for our 226's. I wonder if enough of us Kaiser, Frazer, Willy's guys email them would they make us a re-pop of the Edmund's head and intake??
http://www.vintagespeed.com/MVC-029F.JPG

If you find an original K-F antenna, I'll take one too. If I remember right, Tom W. said they drop all the way down into the fender...

Will in Whittier
49 Frazer Manhattan

[709karl]

Thanks for the reply.  THe duel carb intake really isn't about speed (obviously) or a chevy small block would be in order. I can remember  old Plymouth sixes with splits and they have a sweet sound. Also, i've got one of the nicest original Kaisers left and wouldn't want to really alter it...a few nostalga items however...I was suprised, the Vintage Speed person you mentioned is about 10 miles from where I live so will contact him. Is Edmunds still an active business?  Keep in touch. K.

[FrazerWill]

709karl , (From Vintage Speed) "We will be reproducing some of the more popular Edmunds intakes and other parts soon.  Edmunds Custom was in business from--about 1934 (maybe earlier) thru about 1959 or '60 when it was sold to Fenton . Eddie was born the 18th of Feb. 1916 and died  Sept 1969 according to Roy Pagnini  who wrote a recent story on Edmunds.  Fenton dropped Edmunds from there line after a couple of years as the demand for inline six cyl. -carb setups and alum heads went away."

I'm a big fan of inline 6's. Most of the car's I've owned happend to have I6's. I also have some ford econoline's. My work van 64 econoline van with it's stock 170/3spd. I have a 300EFI I6/auto to go in it when I get the time. I also have a 63, 5 window econoline pickup with a 250 I6 from a fairmont and a T5 5 speed out of a 93 mustang GT I'm working on. I can get a 3 carb setup for those early I6 from Offenhauser.
http://www.offyparts.com/images/offy_5017.JPG

I agree a small amount of mods that can be easily reversed to stock is nice. A supercharger is another idea I've been kicking around, but 2 carb is preferred.

Will in Whittier
49 Frazer Manhattan

[54 Kaiser]

709karl,
  I too am looking for one of those intakes.(and the head)from Edmunds. I've asked around and found a few that are being used, but none for sale with out taking out a loan for more then my car... I also heard they don't help with the HP much, but I remember John Parker had one on his 47 Kaiser and it hauled butt..burn outs and everything...Looked real cool, too. He did rebuild our motors so he knew how to hotrod them.

www.vintagespeed.com makes after market stuff (even the EDMUNDS CUSTOM stuff),but no intake for our 226's. I wonder if enough of us Kaiser, Frazer, Willy's guys email them would they make us a re-pop of the Edmund's head and intake??
http://www.vintagespeed.com/MVC-029F.JPG

If you find an original K-F antenna, I'll take one too. If I remember right, Tom W. said they drop all the way down into the fender...

Will in Whittier
49 Frazer Manhattan

Can't speak for the '49 but I have a 54 Manhattan and the original antenna does pretty much drop right into the fender. There is about 2" sticking up when it's pushed all the way down.

I had to repair mine as it was a "two piece" when I bought the car. Piece number 2 being located on the rear parcel shelf behind the rear seat. I managed to thread the inside of both pieces and used a brass #6 screw with epoxy to put the broken part back on. Originally I was going to just replace it until I realized the new ones are still about 18" long when collapsed and the original dropped right down.

[Fid]

I once read that the '49 standard used the same radio as the '47/'48s did and the '49 deluxe (the 'color' models) used the GE radio which was used in the 1949/50 Frazer Manhattans, the 1951 Frazers and the early 1951 Kaisers.  I've repaired a number of them and sold two of them recently. Rudy Philips reproduces the plastic knobs and pushbuttons for them.  If I happen across another, I'll let  you know, otherwise if you find one and it needs repair, I can do that.

I was at a salvage yard recently that had five 1949/50 Kaisers, including a Deluxe (Bedford Blue) and they all had this style radio in them, even the Deluxe so it could depend on what the dealers had available.

[54 Kaiser]

FWIW, the radio in my 54 Manhattan is a Delco. It was dead when I got it but all that was wrong was the vibrator was shot. Tubes all tested perfect.

I put a solid state replacement in, in place of the mechanical one from Antique Electronic Supply.

http://www.tubesandmore.com/

[709karl]

If anyone needs it, I found a very good person to recondition period radios in Florida.  Also, I'm STILL not sure where to correctlu mount the antenna on a 49 deluxe?  Does anyone know?  Anyone?  My car is finally running like a top and am putting the interior back together and other finishes...looking forward to finally getting some enjoyment out or it...  Thanks, Karl

[Weaz]

I know someone here in Minnesota that's great at refurbishing old radios.

Well, without any definitive answer, I don't think you could go wrong putting on the driver's side fender like this '49 here:



I searched through books, photos on my 'puter and on google. Most '49s appeared to have it here. This picture was by far the most interesting.

[709karl]

YEA GADS!

[Logan]

Unless this has something more than the 226, I think it would be difficult to haul a full load--but way cool!

[Fid]

Weas, that '49/'50 (I forget which) Kaiser limo was right here in Minneapolis for many years. I used to see John Haller driving it down 35W every once in while.  He drove it to the KFOC National in Oshkosh, Wisconsin back in 2001.  In June 2002 it sold to "Fuzzy" Fruzinia (or some such spelling) in Green Bay at an auction here in Blaine, MN. The price it sold for? $16,000. A year later, Fuzzy, who also owned a Darrin and a Tucker, passed away. I have no idea where the cars went. That photo must've been taken after he got it and it looks like it was taken at Lowell Johnsons Brat Fry which is held every August by Lowell Johnson of Sheboygan. I know Fuzzy was the guy who won the big lottery in the mid 80s and was a millionaire several times over and he bought a lot of cars. From what I've been told, he had all the trim on his Darrin gold-plated.  I've seen some pictures.
I took some pictures and you can see it in the background of this one
The rumor going around that day was that Jay Leno had bought several of the cars but since I know someone who knows Jay Leno, I was able to debunk that rumor. In any case, it is cool.
By the way, I know that guy here who repairs the old tube radios too!

[ben-tex]

That "airport limo" as it has been called was at one time at a mission or some such here in Texas. Eventually it ended up with Fred Walker's former partner in CO. He rebuilt it in his home garage. The story has been written up in the Quarterly way back when. It was back in CO at the Ouray meet years ago. I can't remember if the MN gang drove it out or hauled it. I may try to dig out the old mags to find the article.