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MilesP

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uses water
« on: May 08, 2012, 09:53:52 AM »
Just had my motor rebuilt on my 55 Kaiser runs fine except it uses a gallon of water for every 25 miles . No water in the oil but a lot of white smoke from the tail pipe. Any ideas on how to correct the water problem

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Re: uses water
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 10:26:26 AM »
It sounds like whoever rebuilt the motor may not have gotten a good seal on the head gasket. This would cause water/coolant to get into the cylinders and that would cause the white smoke/steam from the exhaust pipe. Since the coolant is leaking in from the top, it would not get down into the oil pan. I would think if this was the issue, the engine would not run particularly well, especially under load but if it's a small amount in each cylinder it may not be too noticeable. Before you rush into something, let's see what others have to offer regarding this issue. The way I see it, it just about has to be head gasket.
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Re: uses water
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 12:24:34 PM »
I agree.  If you pulled your plugs one or two of them are probably burning a different color on the plug tips.
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Re: uses water
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2012, 01:32:57 PM »
Was the head retorqued after the engine was brought up to temperature a couple of times?
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Re: uses water
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2012, 01:45:26 PM »
I would try torquing the heads to see if any of the head bolts are loose.  If they are, I would change the head gasket.
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Re: uses water
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 03:30:03 PM »

thanks for your quick response will et this info back to the rebuilder so he can correct

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Re: uses water
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 05:39:26 PM »
And did he torque them in the right progression?
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Re: uses water
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 11:26:03 PM »
Jim is quite correct - there is a sequence to it. It's in the shop manual. Essentially, you start in the middle and work your way out, sort of like ironing a garment.
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Re: uses water
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 11:28:21 AM »
And did he torque them in the right progression?

Plus a little more torque !!!
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Re: uses water
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 01:50:05 PM »
Torque Sequence is also in the Service Standards Booklets
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Re: uses water
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 05:37:00 PM »
I also hope that the head and the block are flat and matching each other! I know, it should be the last thing one would expect NOT to be done properly when having a rebuild, but nevertheless...   I think it is likely a mix of improper sequence and torque, with the followup torquing overlooked.
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Re: uses water
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 09:04:35 PM »
Jim B PEI, that's a good point about the follow-up torque. I had that happen once when installing a head gasket - it seeped a bit, not bad, but I did have to retorque everything again and that took care of it.  By the way, I haven't heard from you in quite a while Miles. Good to "see" you again. I know that other site is now gone so I'm glad you found your way onto this one.
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