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General Category => Henry J & Allstate Forum => Topic started by: chrysleralmighty on April 03, 2016, 12:21:17 PM

Title: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: chrysleralmighty on April 03, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
Stopped by Selby & Sons in Santa Rosa, CA yesterday and my 134 was being decked when I got there! Neat to see the progress and Everett Selby didn't even laugh too much when he was talking about a "spicier" cam he's gonna use in it!
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Fid on April 03, 2016, 01:28:42 PM
Yes, it is nice to see progress being made.
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: chrysleralmighty on April 03, 2016, 02:31:06 PM
The good news is that the block was virgin--my dad said it had been rebuilt at one point, but there's no evidence of that. So, a .030" bore was easy, a clean decking and new pistons, cam, valvetrain, etc. are gonna wake the little guy up.

I'm not used to spending money on 4-bangers (done a few warmed-up big V8s), but this one is special and can't wait to get it back.

Does anyone know if I can get the stock green engine paint in a rattle can?
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Corsairdeluxe on April 03, 2016, 11:05:15 PM
Might be hard to find ,but could be worthwhile.

http://clubs.hemmings.com/wocv/willywilly/willywilly.htm
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Corsairdeluxe on April 03, 2016, 11:20:19 PM
We do learn something every day!

"The 638303X part number shown on this head is the same as used by the Willys factory for their rare high altitude alloy head released briefly in 1939".
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J--PAINT
Post by: Terry T on April 04, 2016, 11:05:29 AM
Was the 4 cyl. painted the same as the 161 F-head?
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Fid on April 04, 2016, 05:09:25 PM
I don't know about the F head but the 4 was the same green as the 161 CID 6 cyl L head.
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: chrysleralmighty on April 05, 2016, 12:06:57 AM
Fid, do you know where to find that shade of green in a rattlecan?
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: joefrazer on April 05, 2016, 04:40:46 AM
The dark green used on KF engines is not commercially available - either in can or spray. The mix contains aluminum oxide and that's what makes it unique. I found an industrial paint that's a near match, however, it's a tad over $200 a gallon, the smallest size available.
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: chrysleralmighty on April 05, 2016, 09:25:52 AM
That's a good start, Jake! Shoot, my J was hosed down in Earl Scheib red in 1962, right over the original Cerulean Blue, so I guess a close match will fit the bill...
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: boatingbill on April 05, 2016, 10:32:26 AM
KFOCI member Gary Micanek used to mix the engine paint for our cars. He lives in Saint Louis, Mo.
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Fid on April 05, 2016, 11:34:56 AM
Gary Michanek still mixes/sells the paint but not in spray cans.  I used Oliver Tractor paint on my '53 Henry J. Not a perfect match by any means but a medium machine type color close to the "Lawn Green" Martin Senour used to offer.
(https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a3d709b3127ccef46cfb2ffebb00000050O01SatmLdmyB7efAA/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00203070160520130928154210030.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)

Decide for yourself if you think it will work.
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: mark leigh on April 14, 2016, 05:09:19 PM
KFOCI member Gary Micanek used to mix the engine paint for our cars. He lives in Saint Louis, Mo.

 Does anybody have contact info for Gary  - I need engine paint for a 52 Allstate 6 cyl- thanks Mark 209-617-8554
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: njpatera on April 14, 2016, 05:50:51 PM
Very nice!   What was the official name of the green paint for the 4 and the 6?
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Terry T on April 14, 2016, 06:14:01 PM
You do not need to "shoot" the paint that Gary makes.

Merely brush it on, it flows very smoothly.

It has "sparkle" which is correct for the Darrin..I do not know about the other models.

Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Fid on April 14, 2016, 09:38:24 PM
Mark Leigh, the Allstate engines were blue with orange lettering on them.  Not the same as the Henry J and Kaiser cars.
Here's a picture of one that was redone to look original
(https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a6da35b3127cceeb89e61310aa00000030O01SatmLdmyB7efAA/cC/f%3D0/ls%3D00203070160520160415025637818.JPG/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/)
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: chrysleralmighty on May 30, 2016, 12:37:17 PM
Welp, this is the color I ended up going with! Pagan Gold makes everything looks better...
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Fid on May 30, 2016, 01:48:51 PM
I like it!
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: chrysleralmighty on May 30, 2016, 10:36:48 PM
A few more...
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Fid on June 01, 2016, 12:28:36 PM
That's going to be one classy looking four banger!
Title: Re: PICS: the banger for my '52 J
Post by: Aeroman on June 01, 2016, 01:05:14 PM
The late Chuck Schnetlage used to make up rattle cans of the green engine paint. He's been gone for years now, wonder whatever happened to his stock? Maybe Rudy got them?