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Engine Part Placement
« on: October 16, 2017, 06:50:15 PM »
My engine was a little bit of a basket case and I'm not sure of the correct placement for 2 pieces that fell out of the valve area. In the picture you can see 2 sheet metal pieces (different lengths) that I think go behind the valve cover. I'm not seeing them listed in my parts book or service manual, but I'm guessing that they are intended to keep oil from splashing out of the breather. Any one know for sure what they are and exactly how they are supposed to go in?
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Re: Engine Part Placement
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 02:24:38 PM »
Found it - "valve tappet chamber oil shields" in the 1954 -1960 Jeep Utility Vehicles service manual.
http://www.oldwillysforum.com/forum/TechData/WillysShopManual.pdf
page 31 has a picture and some description of how to remove them and page 57 mentions putting them back in.
Looks like these are the 3rd generation (at least) of these oil shields. My older book (47, 48, 49 KF shop manual) shows a picture with 3 of them (page 22) and shows an "old type" also.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2017, 03:50:15 PM by otter50 »
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Re: Engine Part Placement
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 05:45:50 PM »
What year is the engine/car? 
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Re: Engine Part Placement
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2017, 09:34:04 AM »
The car is a 48 Frazer, but the engine is clearly a transplant. It would be interesting to know what it was in originally. The engine model is 6L226-K and the number (stamped and on the data plate) reads 2019259, the head says Kaiser Supersonic, the color is green. Looks like someone modified the front engine mount to fit the 48, it was higher and out to the sides for its original vehicle and someone welded in a section with the earlier mount. The oil pan drains out the back in the middle. The fuel pump is in the front. Looks a lot like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kaiser-Supersonic-6-cylinder-model-6L226-K-with-transmission/332320530745?hash=item4d5fd8e139:g:59UAAOSwt4RZc6kO&vxp=mtr but mine was definitely green.
Any thoughts?
« Last Edit: October 25, 2017, 09:39:35 AM by otter50 »
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Re: Engine Part Placement
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2017, 11:08:29 AM »
Does your engine have a Delco distributor or Autolite?  Kaiser went to Delco in 1951.  Of course, that could easily be changed.
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Re: Engine Part Placement
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2017, 11:47:33 AM »
Looks like a 51-53 Kaiser engine that has been fitted with a 47-48 intake/exhaust manifold.

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Re: Engine Part Placement
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2017, 11:50:35 AM »
It has a Delco-Remy 1110224 OG27 distributor.
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Re: Engine Part Placement
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2017, 12:10:16 PM »
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It has a Delco-Remy 1110224 OG27 distributor.

That's what '51 and later Kaiser used so being dark green and Delco, good chance it was replaced with a post 1950 Kaiser engine
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Re: Engine Part Placement
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2017, 02:33:35 PM »
It is possible to date the assembly of an engine based on the distributor,  starter and generator, if Delco equipped - assuming neither has been changed over the years.

The first seven numbers translate to the part number.

The next five digits date the unit. The first number (always a number) is the year. In this example, '0' = 1950, so 1 would equal 1951, etc. The next digit is always a letter and translates to the month. So, the letter 'G' would equal July. Incidentally, the letter 'I" was not used.

The last two digits, always numbers, translates to the day of the month. Your distributor was built on July 27, 1950. The engine would therefore have been assembled at some point soon after that since KF didn't keep much back stock of items like this.

This same process can be used on Delco starters as well.

And, Harrison radiators installed in 1951-55 full size Kaisers used a similar dating convention.

LOF glass has a date code as well, but that's another story...
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Re: Engine Part Placement
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2017, 02:58:48 PM »
That is very interesting - my generator is 0D28, so April 28, 1950? Not too far off from the distributor.
My starter is Autolite, so I'm guessing it remained from the old engine along with the flywheel/ring gear and bell housing (and manifolds) during the swap. Many thanks for the info!
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