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INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« on: July 10, 2012, 01:05:49 PM »
Reading most of the postings made by new people, it seems to me that they have no idea what support manuals, etc they should have in their posession.  The following items are, in my opinion, MUSTS to assist in restoration of cars, identifying what parts they may need (most K-F vendors go by number rather than "the left handed such and such for my 1951 Whatzit") and routine maintenance of their vehicles (what needs attention and how often):

The FACTORY shop manual covering your particular car.  Best manual for a Henry J or Allstate is the 1951-52-53 HJ book, best for a 1947-48 Kaiser or frazer is the blue cover 1947-48-49 (which also works for 1950 model year cars) manual.  1952 and 1953 Kaisers require the 1951 Kaiser and Frazer manual plus the 1953 issued supplement for the later cars.  1954-55 Kaisers do not have a manual as such...you use the 1952-53 model year manuals with the various service bulletins issued by Kaiser-Willys Sales Corporation, and the 1954 issue Supercharger manual.  Power steering equipped cars need the Power Steering manual.  Willys products use the Mechanics Manuals and Body Manuals for their appropriate year/model vehicle.

The FACTORY parts book is also a must.  Go with the Illustrated versions whenever you can (1954-55 Kaiser is not illustrated) There are supplements to the 1951 model year parts book to cover 1952 Virginian, 1952 second series and 1953 model year Kaisers, as well as supplements for 1952 Vagabond, 1952 Corsair and 1953 Corsair HJ's.  1954 HJ's use the materials that would apply to the 1953 models. 

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2012, 01:12:09 PM »
Willys Aero manuals (from the Willys Aero Survival Count website listed below my name):

Mechanics Manual:
Models 685, 675; copyright 1952

Mechanics Manual:
Models 685, 675, 6-226; copyright 1955

Preliminary Parts List:
Model 685 Super DeLuxe (Aero Comet) - Custom (Aero Ace); copyright 1951

Preliminary Parts List:
Model 675 2-door DeLuxe (Lark); copyright 1953

Parts List:
Model 685 Super DeLuxe (Aero Wing) - Custom (Aero Ace); copyright 1952

Willys Passenger Car Parts List 1952-1953:
Models 475A, 675, 675A, 685, 685A; copyright 1954

Supplement to Willys Passenger Car Parts List 1952-1953 - Parts Peculiar to 1954 Passenger Cars 475B, 675B, 685B, 6-226:
Issued September 1954

Supplement to 1952-1953 Willys Passenger Car Parts List - Parts Peculiar to 1954-1955 Passenger Cars 475B, 675B, 685B, 6-226, 475C, 685C, 6-226A:
Issued May 1955

Supplement to 1952-1953 Willys Passenger Car Parts List - Parts Peculiar to 1954-1955 Passenger Cars 475B, 675B, 685B, 6-226, 6-226A:
Issued May 1956, supersedes the Supplement issued May 1955

Hydra-Matic Drive Parts List: Willys 1953-54 Hydra-Matic Passenger Cars:
Issued September 1954

Hydra-Matic Drive Parts List: Willys 1953-1954-1955 Hydra-Matic
Passenger Cars:
Issued May 1955

Parts Price List:
All Models; Effective March 1, 1956

Passenger-Car Service Time Schedule:
KW 1952-1954; Flat Rate Manual; September 1954
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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2012, 09:22:23 PM »
the various manuals tend to show up for sale at the parts/stuff for sale areas at many division level meets.  Otherwise, why not run a WANTED ad in the KFOCI MONTHLY BULLETIN?  It doesn't cost you anything if you are a member, and will reach the entire regular/life membership of this club.

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 12:03:00 PM »
I will totally agree on this .  I've worked with some of my friends who are in my local club to restore a '55 Ford, a 52 Olds 98, a 53 Pontiac and of course my Kaisers.  I joined the KF club in '88 and when I started on the 53 manhattan, I knew I needed a parts and a shop manual.  I talked to & bought them from Fred Walker and never regretted it.  The Kaiser parts manual is the only factory manual that details every nut bolt and washer and is in most cases is illustrated. So if one is interested in correectness this is the only way to go.  I've used the o/d wiring diagram and test procedures, from the kaiser manuals  to troubleshoot any car with a Borg-Warner o/d.  We even use the 51 Kaiser shop manual to disassemble and rebuild the manual transmission in his 55 Ford. I also tell every new member comming into our local club that the 1st thing he should do is join the major club of his margue.  We've all been there but so have they.  Keep up the good work Jack.

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 01:56:58 PM »
I agree about using the parts manuals to find correct nuts, bolts, fasteners etc.  When I installed the Continental kit on my '52 HJ Vagabond, I only had the parts which were removed from a car years ago. The guy I bought them from did not save/have all the fasteners. The parts list was invaluable at helping me ID what I need to get a true authentic look/install of that kit. Most fasteners were available at my local Ace Hardware.
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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 07:40:06 AM »
During 1948 and into 1949, the factory issued a number of good service bulletins covering parts changes and other things.   These items came out after the green cover book came out, but the information made its way into the blue cover 1947-48-49 Factory Service manual.  Some of the repair procedures listed are better explained in the later book than in the Green cover 1947-48 edition.   That's why the blue cover version is recommended over the Green but there is still a lot of good info in the earlier book. 

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 09:00:58 AM »
I worked at the trade all my life starting by changing the engine in a Model A ford when I was 14 years old. The day I retired I was still buying manuals. Why people think they can restore something they have never seen before with no reference materials is beyond me. Good thread.

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2013, 10:19:30 AM »
I dont know if this is any help for those who are looking, but I found my manual at http://hagensautoparts.com/. I called in an ordered a manual, the owner is super nice and is very helpful!

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 05:57:06 AM »
If you are unable to find certain service manuals or parts lists, take heart.  KFOCI HANDBOOK Version 5.0 has the following original items scanned.  If you cannot find the actual material, this should be a help and can be printed on your own computer if you want hard copy:

1.  1949 Issue Parts lists for the different types of wheel brakes used on Kaiser and Frazer cars in 1949-50.
2.  Green cover 1952 HJ Vagabond Parts List Supplement to 1951 HJ book with exploded drawing of the Continental Tire Kit
3.  Orange cover 1952 Kaiser Virginian Parts list Supplement to 1951 Kaiser book with exploded drawing of the Continental Tire Kit
4.  Spring 1953 issue 1952-53 Henry J Parts List Supplement to 1951 Illustrated Parts List
5.  Spring 1953 issue 1952-53 Kaiser Parts List Supplement to 1951 Illustrated Parts List
6.  1953 Kaiser Carolina Parts List Supplement; use with item #5 this list.
7.  1953 Kaiser Hydra-Matic Parts List Supplement to the 1951-52 H-D Parts List

Also to be included are;
A.  1954 Supercharger Manual
B.  1953-55 Kaiser Power Steering Manual
C.  1948 issue Wagner-Lockheed Brake Manual

Others may be added depending on feedback.

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2013, 01:04:05 PM »
My Dad was a dealer and I have some manuals that I would like to sale. Here they are Henry J 1951 model 513-514 advance service manual and parts price list.  Hydra-Matic shop manual copyright 1950. Shop Manual 1947-1948-1949 Models K-100,101,481,491,492,F-47,485,486,495,496. Shop manual supplement 1953 & 1953 models K-521,K-522,K530,K531,K532. Hydra-Matic shop manual transmission models K-50,K-51,K-52. Shop manual for 1951 K-511,K-512,F-515,F516. Service time schedule 1951 models. Kaiser-Frazer uniform accounting manual. Parts and accessories Bulletins binder with combined chassis and body parts list for models K-100,K-101,K-481,K482,F-47,F47C,F-485,F-486 and 1951 combined chassis and body parts list for models K511,K512 and a small book Gasket sets and water pump repair kits 1948 and Hydra-matic parts list for 1951 and parts list for 1952 HenryJ models 523,524 and parts and accessories parts list effective nov. 1951 and a gasket set and repair kits for all models date april 1952.  The condition of these books varies, all are well used.

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2013, 04:12:50 PM »
I would be interested in the Bulletin Binders and bulletins... Service, Advance, Confidential etal.  Let me know your price and how to pay.
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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2013, 10:07:09 PM »
I may have  few pictures for you to add to the archives..  Maybe a few names to go along with this as well..   if your interested..   :)

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2013, 06:24:56 AM »
as noted on the club website, my email address is kaiserfrazerlibrary@yahoo.com.

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Re: INFORMATION ALL K-F OWNERS SHOULD HAVE
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2013, 03:46:45 PM »
Has anyone scanned these manuals and if so could they be offered electronically on the website?  I have a 1949 shop manual and scanned most of it to my ipad.
1949 Kaiser Deluxe
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1960 Metropolitan