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Roadmaster49

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ALL VINYL Dragons?
« on: July 12, 2014, 08:31:58 AM »
Why do some refer to their Dragons as "All Vinyl" like it is a difference maker?  Were some Dragons "partial vinyl"?  What is meant by "All Vinyl"?  Posters go out their way to put it in their descriptions, sign ons and titles so it must be relevant.  Thanks
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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 09:06:07 AM »
An ALL VINYL dragon has seats with inserts of vinyl and not cloth. The pix tell the story...the first picture is an all vinyl car.

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 12:16:27 PM »
I ran across an all vinyl 53 J in California 25 years go. Headliner, windlace ,wire on ,seats and panels. Tried to buy it but missed out. I took a few photos. Will try to locate.
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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2014, 12:18:20 PM »
Was it all red??
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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2014, 12:33:08 PM »
It was either red or coral .I have some pictures of it.
Does not show much, but you can  see that the wireon and windlace are Gator vinal.
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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2014, 04:37:42 PM »
Not the same thing as a 1953 KAISER DRAGON with all vinyl.  There is reference made to the type in the Dragon item in KFOCI HANDBOOK.  Instead of the laguna cloth with swirl pattern, it has a coordinated vinyl material that is NOT multi-pleated.

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2014, 09:29:58 AM »
There was a 1953 all vinyl Dragon at the 2013 fall Auburn, IN auctions. I did not stay to see it go through but I took a few pics (attached). It was in a tent with poor lighting so I did not photograph the interior but you can see it through the windshield when I photographed the information tag. As you can see this was all green vinyl but the inserts were of the small roll pleat style and not the flat vinyl that Jack mentions. Also this car had a painted roof rather than the vinyl roof. Any ideas if this example was likely a factory true version, Jack?

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2014, 12:43:00 PM »
You want a depressing fact, that car got the seller about $8,000 after sales fee. Now that in my mind is a good deal.
Of course if we don't keep sharing our cars with the public even Dragons won't be worth a thing.

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2014, 08:51:00 PM »

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2014, 07:46:18 PM »
Love the all vinyls, love the Laguna cloth too--you can't go wrong with a Dragon!

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2014, 07:31:48 PM »
Nope...not an all-vinyl car. The pictured car has cloth seat inserts...the all vinyl cars had vinyl inserts.

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2014, 09:19:38 PM »
this AV was at puyallup meet
« Last Edit: November 03, 2014, 02:29:57 PM by dusty »

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2014, 08:58:21 AM »
I have never seen that white vinyl for the seat inserts.  Do you know what the trim numbers on this car are?

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2014, 05:29:50 PM »
Trim # 5312 as stated in 1953 Kaiser Dragon data sheet C-58-b in the club handbook. white Boucle  on Green Bambou Vinyl with white Poplin top. The Door arm rests are the original that came with the car and are installed with NO reworking, the SMS repro. material is a dead on color match. One mistake i made was trying to buy( excelent used material) from club members ,as it turned out after spending $1500.00+ none of the material was useable to suit my taste.      YESS THAT WAS MY CAR , ONLY HAD THAT MUCH OF THE UPHOLSTERY DONE, DURING THE MEET A GROUP OF MEMBERS WENT TO THE FACTORY IN CANBY OR. TO SEE HOW THEY MADE IT. TODAY THE CAR HAS WON 5 FIRST PLACE AWARD\S AT CCCA SANTIONED MEETS . LAST ONE WAS 2017 .
« Last Edit: April 13, 2019, 10:03:43 PM by dusty »

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Re: ALL VINYL Dragons?
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2014, 07:58:25 PM »
Henry J Kaiser's personal car has all white vinyl in it. I think it's a 888 trim

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